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7mm 168 gr Match VLD

 
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:07 AM
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7mm 168 gr Match VLD

how do people find these on game ?

do they kill clean ?

do they expand at all or tumble ?
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Old 04-10-2008, 04:53 AM
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168 Vld

I started shooting the 168 VLD's because of their high BC. Walt Berger helped me with some loading data and told me that the VLD was a fine hunting bullet as well. After two seasons with this bullet I've been very pleased.
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:54 AM
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My hunting crew killed several caribou, bull elk, and deer with them last year. Mostly with 30 cal 168s from a 300 Win but 2 caribou with 115 VLDs from a 25-06. All shots were in the ribs and the results were that none of the bullets penetrated the critters to the skin on the opposite side. All of the bullets penetrated the close side and blew up which shredded the lungs and did a good job of killing the animals quickly. All of the shots were less than 300 yards save 1 5-point bull that was at ~400. That bullet put an entrance wound on the inside of the rib cage on the opposite side of the bull that was about the same diameter as a softball and got into the shoulder but never penetrated it. In the future, I'm planning to use Bergers for long range work but will stick to something tougher like Scirroco's, Accubonds, or Partitions for hunting in thick cover.
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:21 PM
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We used the 168gr Bergers on antelope this year. 6 animals, 1 shot each, all broad side or quartering. Range was 3@ 450, 1@ 150, and 2@ 300yrds. My buck went 10 yrds and both does simply crumbled. Preformance was as promised, caliber sized entry w/2-3" penitration then "soup" for heart and lungs, and a 1-2" exit. Loads were 7WSM and 280 AI both at 2950fps.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:41 AM
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check out the videos on bergers website. they are pretty impressive. I dont hunt with bergers and am currently favoring the accubonds in 30 cal 200 gr. But the BC of those 210 are kinda temping. My only hang up for not using the bergers is I see the benefit of a large exit would for tracking purposes if a poor shot were to happen.
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:30 AM
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JPRITT, I respect your decision on bullet selection and am by no means saying you are wrong and I am right.

IMHO the complete amount of energy needs to go from the bullet to the animal. The Berger does this better than any bullet I have seen. I have yet to get an exit on any game animal with the Berger VLD's. That includes shots from 30 on out to 700. I do like Nosler Ballistic tips but I have had them fail to open at longer ranges. I am talking out to 800 yards roughly.

Now my experience with the bonded bullets and X-type bullets has been this. Keep in mind that my family owns a high game fence ranch and I have seen hundreds of deer taken with all types of bullets. Most (~65% +) deer shot with these deep penatrating bullets run off over 50 yards. This is not on high shoulder or neck shots but boiler room shots. When the round passes straight through an animal it is a lot like hunting with a bow. The animal has to bleed out. Now quite a few do drop but they tend to get back up and run into the yoepon which makes it almost impossible to track.

The ballistic tip and VLD's do a much better job of DRT shots even if not put in the perfect place. The sheer amount of shock to the lungs and heart due to the bullet stopping about 2/3 of the way through and breaking into dozens of pieces create enough shock on the animal to fold them up. Just what I have seen in the past, I am not saying I am right though.
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:14 AM
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How do the bergers behave past 700 yds??
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