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Old 11-14-2009, 04:53 PM
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7mm-08 max range on elk?

I will be travelling to Colorado for a DIY elk hunt in 2010, and am planning to take my lightweight LR hunting rifle because we will be doing a lot of hiking and need to be completly mobile. Normally I use this rifle on chamois in the alps here out to 600 yards with no problems.
This will not be an intentional long range hunt, but I do want to hear from those who have experience with elk how effective I can expect the 7mm-08 to be at the longer ranges.
I'd like to hope to get my bull with a close shot after a good stalk but conditions might force me into taking a long "only opportunity" shot, so I'd be willing to push the envelope a bit, say out to 500 yards.
Is that asking too much of the round? I plan on shooting a 160 grain bullet, at the moment it's shooting .5MOA with 140gn Failsafes, but I think I'll will want more penetration from a heavier bullet on such a big animal.

If anyone can suggest a good bullet that would be of some help, the Berger 168gn hunting bullet is appealing, just maybe the 180 will be a bit too much to get decent velocities.
I have never had any problems with SMKs hunting with my heavier rifles, where I tend to use the heaviest for caliber weights but I would not feel comfortable using them with what seems to be a marginal caliber so I've left them out of the equation.

Thanks.
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Old 11-14-2009, 05:05 PM
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Re: 7mm-08 max range on elk?

With a well placed shot I dont think even 600 yard would be a problem. I know a lot of elk have been killed at that range with even a 270win. So I think you will be fine good luck. I would go with 160 accubonds great bullet used them first hand.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:15 PM
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Re: 7mm-08 max range on elk?

Read the entire thread. I'm confident your answer is contained there in.....
Berger 168 VLD results on an Elk

My personal opinion would be shoot no farther than you can ensure a perfect heart shot. Then be prepared for at least 130 yards tracking.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:23 PM
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Re: 7mm-08 max range on elk?

I have run the distance out to 540 yards, but that was with 140's. I would use the 168 Berger this time around or a 160 AB
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:26 PM
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Re: 7mm-08 max range on elk?

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With a well placed shot I dont think even 600 yard would be a problem. I know a lot of elk have been killed at that range with even a 270win. So I think you will be fine good luck. I would go with 160 accubonds great bullet used them first hand.
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But I would try to get under 500 yards on ELK if I could and 600yards on deer.

Ether the 160 Accubond or the 160 Ballistic tip will work.

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Old 11-14-2009, 08:09 PM
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Re: 7mm-08 max range on elk?

The two questions I ask myself when detrming max hunting range for a cartridge/bullet are... 1) at what range does the bullet come to its minimum expanding velocity and.. 2) does it have enough momentum at that range to penetrate completely through the boiler room with a well placed shot. For elk, I look for 40 lb ft of momentum. This is based on what I have observed reported here on LR elk kills and is subjective.

Your max range is dependant on the velocity and terminal performance of the bullet use which is dependant on enviromental contitions such as elevation, temp, etc.

If I was hunting with a 7-08, my first choice of bullet would be a 150 E-Tip (especially for elk) Minimum expanding vel = 1800 fps. My powder would be RL17 which works very well in the 7-08. I would expect an MV of 2900 fps or greater out of a 24" barrel.

Based on that data, if I was hunting elk @ 10,000' elevation I would be comfortable with an 800 yd shot on an elk. The bullet should be able to completely penetrate and hit ribs going in and out and expand. You cant ask for much more than that.

Having said that, elk are tough critters whether you hit them close or far and there is a good chance you'll need a follow up shot. Any guide worth his weight in saw dust will be working a cow/calf call to calm the bull after being shot.

Another bullet choices would be the 160 AB.

Hope that helps,

Mark

Just noticed you said DIY... get a mouth reed type cow calf call and practice with it. After making a shot, immediately start a calf in distress type call. This is very effective in calming elk.

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Old 11-14-2009, 08:49 PM
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Re: 7mm-08 max range on elk?

How far would you take a LARGE sambar with your 7-08? Then reduce by 100 yds or so.
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