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Old 10-22-2010, 11:18 AM
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Re: 6.5 140vld at 3300-3400fps???? need help

I just went to reloader's nest.com. He is using 62.0grns of RL19 in a 30" tube getting 3320fps with a 140VLD in a SAUM case. Another load is a 6.5WSM with H1000 pushing a 140 SGK to 2940 with 59.2grns of powder. I would imagine with a VLD and RL17 or something similar in burn rate should be able to push it into the 3050-3100fps ball park, but that is merely speculation. Not owning the caliber it's hard to say. There are some guys on this sight that own the 6.5 shorts so you may want to post something like, "Need reloading info on 6.5 WSM or SAUM" and see what your response is. You may want to look at the ballistics of a 270WSM with a 150grn bullet. You can push them close to the numbers you want and from what I read, devastating on game. I'm seeing 3100 to 3200fps with Berger VLD 150 posting some good groups. That will get you to the 1000 mark for deers and antelopes. That's out of a 24" barrel too.

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Re: 6.5 140vld at 3300-3400fps???? need help

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I just went to reloader's nest.com. He is using 62.0grns of RL19 in a 30" tube getting 3320fps with a 140VLD in a SAUM case. Another load is a 6.5WSM with H1000 pushing a 140 SGK to 2940 with 59.2grns of powder. I would imagine with a VLD and RL17 or something similar in burn rate should be able to push it into the 3050-3100fps ball park, but that is merely speculation. Not owning the caliber it's hard to say. There are some guys on this sight that own the 6.5 shorts so you may want to post something like, "Need reloading info on 6.5 WSM or SAUM" and see what your response is. You may want to look at the ballistics of a 270WSM with a 150grn bullet. You can push them close to the numbers you want and from what I read, devastating on game. I'm seeing 3100 to 3200fps with Berger VLD 150 posting some good groups. That will get you to the 1000 mark for deers and antelopes. That's out of a 24" barrel too.

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You have to really stomp on the 270 WSM to run with the 6.5's. I can clock the 140gr bullets 3300-3400fps with a 26in barrel and slow powders but the BC is much lower than the 6.5's and the ballistics match the 6.5 with a 140 gr bullet at the 3000-3100fps range.

I think Ernie is running a new 6.5 on the 270 WSM with Norma brass, may look into that a little. I can hear the barrel crackling now!
I think LTLR had some dealings with the 6.5 STW also.
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Re: 6.5 140vld at 3300-3400fps???? need help

My 264 stw will reach over 3300 fps with the 140 in a 28" barrel. You might could design something off the 338 lapua imp or ultramag case to do it but not at that weight rifle. With what I have worked with in 6.5 the 6.5 wsm I think would be the best option in that weight rifle. You will not get 3300 fps but it will be accurate and the most efficient in that barrel length. With short barrels the larger the caliber the better off you are with large cases because the less overbore you have the more efficient you are with velocity loss or the lack of it. That is why the 338 win mag does so well in short barrels. It doesn't lose much and is very efficient. So if you went the wsm route the 300 might be the best and the 7mm probably better than the 6.5. I mention the wsm because it is one of the most efficient large cases out there for use in short barrels.

For hunting purposes in a lightweight rifle with 24" barrel there are many choices that work well to 800 yards. If you include elk size critters the list gets shorter. The high BC wsm cartridges will get you there and there are several others particularly if deer size stuff is what you are after.

I have taken several animals at long range out to 1100 yards with a 24" barrel lightweight 338 win mag. A moose being the one at 1100. The 225 AB will shoot over 2900 fps with a .55 bc and hits stuff way harder at long range than some of the smaller stuff. My Tikka T-3 light weighs 7 1/2 pounds with scope and bipod. I have no trouble at all killing anything I want with it out to the 800 yards you are looking at. You do not need a heavy nightforce at that range. think light weight. Mine is a 13.9 oz swaro with the BR reticle which is dead on hits without turning clicks to 850 yards. And when I hit something with it, It is Dead. Just showing you there are other things out there many people don't really think about if they are just focused on ballistic charts. From all my posts through the years you know I am more focused on kill charts than ballistic charts.
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Re: 6.5 140vld at 3300-3400fps???? need help

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Just showing you there are other things out there many people don't really think about if they are just focused on ballistic charts. From all my posts through the years you know I am more focused on kill charts than ballistic charts.
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Re: 6.5 140vld at 3300-3400fps???? need help

My 260 shoots the 140VLD at 3000fps....

My 260 by MCR

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that 3200 is about max velocity for the VLD bullets.
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Re: 6.5 140vld at 3300-3400fps???? need help

I've chased my tail for awhile trying to get the same thing from a 270 win case necked down, and I've done it with a 6.5 Gibbs, but case life is really dismal.
I've clocked 140 bergers in the 3340fps range but the cases don't last long, and I had the barrel setback at 700 rounds.
I've since backed off and run them 3250 fps and hope to get better brass life and accuracy, (though the accuracy has been quite good all along)
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Re: 6.5 140vld at 3300-3400fps???? need help

I think the 140 VLD in 6.5mm is an excellent choice. But, I'll take a 7mm 168VLD or 180VLD any day/week/month/year over the 140.
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