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Unread 03-25-2009, 12:09 AM
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Guys, would like to hear the good bad and the ugly on this one..

Thinking about converting a 25-06 to 6.5-06?? Waste of time and money?? Or will the 25-06 do everything the 6.5 will do? Wanta push it out to 1000yds.

Newbie who needs advice?

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Unread 03-25-2009, 12:49 AM
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Re: 6.5-06

A lot of the 1000 yard target shooters use the 6.5 and there are some good projectiles in this calibre.

Might make for an interesting project for targets or smaller animals.

Although I have shot a heap of game with the 25-06 out to 500 yards, I would not choose either of these calibres if I wanted to shoot deer at 1000 yards.
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Unread 03-25-2009, 04:17 AM
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Re: 6.5-06

If I were to do a 6.5-06, I would do the AI version. I would not hesitate to use
that caliber at longer ranges for deer. Don't have one thou, as I have a 7STW for that.
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Unread 03-25-2009, 07:26 AM
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Re: 6.5-06

I am thinking of converting an old 30-06 to this round as well. Was thinking of doing a 338-06 for a 200-400 yard big game gun, but I deer/varmint hunt a lot more than bear or other large game so I'll prolly go with the 6.5-06. Plus, that way I can save up and get a 338 RUM or 338 EDGE . I can't afford to have multiple guns of the same caliber lol
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Unread 03-25-2009, 09:05 AM
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Re: 6.5-06

I am not sure if the ackley on the 6.5-06 is worth the trouble. From what I understand from when I had mine built last year, the ackley version of this caliber is the least efficient of the ackleys. My buddy just built one in the ackley. He's getting 3180fps out of the 140 Bergers. Not grouping well yet, so that number may or may not hold. He is also running a 28" barrel. The one I had built will run the 130g Scirroco up near 3100fps.

Just did some quick calcs on the JBM. At 3050fps the Scirroco will hold better than 1800fps out to 900yrds and better than 1700fps out to 1000yrds. More than enough for deer out to a 1000yrds.

My son shot his cow elk last fall w/ the Scirroco at 375yrds. Broke both heavy shoulder bones and took the lungs on the way through. Bullet had 82% weight retention. This is a very potent combo.

Hope this helps you.

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Unread 03-25-2009, 01:01 PM
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Re: 6.5-06

I plan on building a 6.5-06 AI this summer. I plan to drive 130 grain scirroccos at 3200+ FPS from a 28" heavy sporter or light varmint barrel. I like the idea of the AI because I will be forming brass from 25-06 brass and the AI provides a measure of safety because it will not chamber in someones 25-06 by accident.

When you run the numbers on the 6.5 -06 AI with the scirrocco vs the 300 RUM with the 180 or 200 grain accubond the trajectory and wind drift numbers are almost identical to 1000 yards. It is hard to believe that but the 06 case holds its own against the much larger case due to the 6.5, 130 grain BC of .571. Several other 6.5 bullets are equally efficient but the scirrocco offers proven terminal performance. Here is an interesting article on the terminal performance of the 130 grain scirrocco.

Shooting Illustrated's Guns and Hunting - NRA

I would mention that there is a new 140 grain accubond being released this summer that may make a great hunting option also.
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Unread 03-26-2009, 07:36 AM
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Re: 6.5-06

I have a friend he's and old guy that is the best gunsmith I know of. He wanted to answer this question 10 or so years ago, so He built 2 identical rifles one in 6.5-06 and one ackley. The ackley was much more finicky and he felt it wasn't worth the extra 100fps. Interestingly enough, he could not get either one to shoot 40 grain bullets very well when he loaded up just about and 130 the accuracy was spot on .2,.3 with very little effort. We talked about it quit a bit and I and as we speak putting together a 6.5-06 standard. His comment was if you want to shoot the heavy bullets go with a 6.5-284, it shoots the 142smk real good.

As another note my buddy has taken game all over the world with his 6.5-06. It is his favorite cartridge because of its versatility. It shoots the lightest of bullets up to the 130's extremely well and doesn't chew up barrels. He has been shooting the standard 6.5-06 he built 10 years ago all this time. He told me deer at 1000 is no problem especially with the 130 VLD. He also states a bull elk at 500 isn't a problem either. He is a good shooter and his focus is on hunting and not necessarily distance but this year shot and Ibex @ 650 dropped him where he stood. If versatility and very manageable recoil is what you want you really can't beat the ole 6.5-06.
I personally only shoot out to 6-700 yards at this point due to I feel I just haven't made it to greater distances with enough confidence yet, nor have I needed to.

The end result is the 6.5-06 is everything the 25-06 is and most of what the 270 is in the same cartridge.

Hope this helped.

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