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Old 01-28-2010, 10:47 AM
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338rum build

I was interested in building a 338 that could hunt elk out to 1000 yards. I have a 338 win mag which is a fun and accurate rifle, but after years of reading about the 338 rum, 338 lapua, and 338 edge I want one. Cost has been the biggest prohibiting factor, but I am finally going to do it.

I have decided on a 338 rum mainly because it will be the cheapest to shoot and it has plenty power to get out to 1000 yards. I have a new Remington SPS in 300 rum as a donor rifle. My gunsmith is truing the action. Ordered a 27” Pac Nor barrel with a # 6 contour 1 in 9 twist.

I am trying to make it good at long range and also not so heavy I can’t carry it. It is a tradeoff between to much weight or to much recoil. With the stock, rings and mount, scope, and muzzle break best guess is total weight of about 12 lbs. Is this a good tradeoff weight?

What muzzle break would you use? I have been looking at Kiby’s APS painkiller and Shawn’s DE brake.

The last thing to decide on is which stock. I want a tactical stock with adjustable cheek piece and adjustable length of pull. Bell and Carson(A5) and HS Precision(M24) are two that are in my price range is one any better than the other?

Anyway I am fishing for opinions/knowledge especially on how much the rifle should weight. Thanks.
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Old 01-28-2010, 07:51 PM
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Re: 338rum build

I can tell you that the BC a5 adjustable is quite heavy, and won't make 12 pounds finished weight with a #6 and scope.

You would be better off with a fixed HS and a DE or Karsten cheek pc.
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:10 PM
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Re: 338rum build

I would go with the APS brake. a braked 338 rum in a 12 lb rifle...IMHO the recoil would be less than a 308 thus maybe allowing you to go with a lighter build. Felt recoil is a different for different folks so this is just my opinion.
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:15 PM
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Re: 338rum build

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I can tell you that the BC a5 adjustable is quite heavy, and won't make 12 pounds finished weight with a #6 and scope.

You would be better off with a fixed HS and a DE or Karsten cheek pc.

+1 on the last part I've got a set up identical to that except a 26" barrel w/brake and it's under 12lbs.

Nathan
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:25 PM
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Re: 338rum build

actualy i realy dont think you need a .338 for that. beleave it or not u might want to consider a .300 rum a friend of mine has one and at 300 yards its shootin 1/4 min. groups and the brute horsepower it is sure to deliver all the horse power you need for a elk gun. if you are a hand loader you might want to consider the berger vld's they deliver terninal proformance at longranges but if you are shooting factory amo you are always shooting diferent bullets eaven know it says the same thing on the box... each box of bullets can be made in diferent factorys or diferent lots. i am not trying to be a know it all but shooting the .300 rum is a cheeper way to go because my friend was actualy looking into the 338 rum and he found out that the brass for it was like $0.89 for each peice of brass so for like 100 cartriges it was like 89 bucks and the brass for the .300 rum was much cheeper and the bullets them selfs were actualy easyer to find becuse 30 cal is a well known calaber but the 338 is actualy a military round used in afganastan and iraq but if you want to go whit the .338 its ok i was just giving you a sugjestion
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Old 01-28-2010, 09:03 PM
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Re: 338rum build

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actualy i realy dont think you need a .338 for that. beleave it or not u might want to consider a .300 rum a friend of mine has one and at 300 yards its shootin 1/4 min. groups and the brute horsepower it is sure to deliver all the horse power you need for a elk gun. if you are a hand loader you might want to consider the berger vld's they deliver terninal proformance at longranges but if you are shooting factory amo you are always shooting diferent bullets eaven know it says the same thing on the box... each box of bullets can be made in diferent factorys or diferent lots. i am not trying to be a know it all but shooting the .300 rum is a cheeper way to go because my friend was actualy looking into the 338 rum and he found out that the brass for it was like $0.89 for each peice of brass so for like 100 cartriges it was like 89 bucks and the brass for the .300 rum was much cheeper and the bullets them selfs were actualy easyer to find becuse 30 cal is a well known calaber but the 338 is actualy a military round used in afganastan and iraq but if you want to go whit the .338 its ok i was just giving you a sugjestion
With that said, If he wants to go with a 338 would it be cheaper to do an edge? The .338 Edge uses the .300RUM case, right?
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Old 01-28-2010, 09:21 PM
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Re: 338rum build

Your 300 ultramag will certainly kill elk at a thousand yards but the larger caliber 338 is a better choice as you decided. I own and have built many of the 300, 338 and 338-300 ultramags. My cost on brass is the same with the 300 and 338. Bullet availability is also the same. The 338 ultramag will feed better through your action than the 338-300 ultramag or some call the edge on here. Performance is the same. You may outshoot some, some may outshoot you. Just depends on the individual barrel. The 300 ultramag case is .091 or so inches longer if my memory serves me correctly which causes some feeding problems in Rem 700 actions when necked to 338 caliber unless modified.

I think your good on cartridge. I have several 338-300 ultramags, 340 weatherby's, 300 ultramags, etc built with 28" #4 Hart and Pac-Nor barrels. They all come in under 11 pounds scoped out with bipod. So you can accomplish your goal.
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