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Unread 10-06-2013, 10:42 AM
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Re: 338 Allen Xpress, RL33 load development

Kirby ,,,,,,,,

you are not listening now any more than you listened back then ,,,,,,,

something was wrong with your load combo ,,,, and when we tried to inform you of this, you rambled on and on and on just like you are doing now ,,,,,,,

certainly the Warbird brass we had in the 90s, was not as good as we have today, ((all brass is better today than it was in the 90s)) but it was STILL within spec and we were able to achieve our published velocities, at 66,900 PSI with our factory loads, and properly put together handloads,,,,,,

it is a matter of record, I have calibrated pressure barrels, that is what we sold, and the performance was NOT exaggerated ,,,,,, I still use the very first batch of Warbird brass in my personal rifle today, 18 years later ,,,,,,,

if you want to talk about insulting, just read over again all of your LONG drawn out posts to me ,,,, your animosity toward what I have done is at the very least unattractive ,,,,,
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    Unread 10-06-2013, 11:31 AM
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    Re: 338 Allen Xpress, RL33 load development

    RL-33 load data where did you go the last three pages of posts? I'm about ready to head out to the range with RL-33 loaded in 300 RUM on a 30" Lilja and 230 Bergers. Results of RL-33 in large magnum cartridges such as the 338 AX is helping while making decisions with loads.

    Is there any more RL data out there?
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    Re: 338 Allen Xpress, RL33 load development

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    RL-33 load data where did you go the last three pages of posts? I'm about ready to head out to the range with RL-33 loaded in 300 RUM on a 30" Lilja and 230 Bergers. Results of RL-33 in large magnum cartridges such as the 338 AX is helping while making decisions with loads.

    Is there any more RL data out there?
    In my personal experience I discovered that to equal the pressure levels of Retumbo in my RUM I needed approx. 10 grains more of RL33. Mine is a full custom with a 32" Broughton 5C using 230 hybrids. The velocity gains over Retumbo were very impressive. I have a non-conventional throating which I'm sure contributed to this difference. I would start 3-5 grains over Retumbo max load and work up in 1 grain increments to find where pressure starts. I believe Berger load data shows 88 grains as max with Retumbo and the 230's.
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    Re: 338 Allen Xpress, RL33 load development

    My accuracy load with 230 bergers and 300 RUM was 100 grain of RL-33.
    Worked up to 102 grs with hint of bolt lift and accuracy fell off.
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    Re: 338 Allen Xpress, RL33 load development

    I have not yet had the opportunity yet to try the new reloader 33, but I remember about 14 years ago when the reloader 25 & Retumbo was released, and it really improved the potential performance of the super-mags like the Lazz Warbird and Weatherby 30-378,,,,,, especially with the heavier bullets ,,,,,,

    and it would make perfect sense to add around 2-6% more of it, compared to reloader 25, to achive the same pressure levels along with the corresponding increase in velocity ,,,,,,
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    Re: 338 Allen Xpress, RL33 load development

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    Kirby ,,,,,,,,

    you are not listening now any more than you listened back then ,,,,,,,

    something was wrong with your load combo ,,,, and when we tried to inform you of this, you rambled on and on and on just like you are doing now ,,,,,,,

    certainly the Warbird brass we had in the 90s, was not as good as we have today, ((all brass is better today than it was in the 90s)) but it was STILL within spec and we were able to achieve our published velocities, at 66,900 PSI with our factory loads, and properly put together handloads,,,,,,

    it is a matter of record, I have calibrated pressure barrels, that is what we sold, and the performance was NOT exaggerated ,,,,,, I still use the very first batch of Warbird brass in my personal rifle today, 18 years later ,,,,,,,

    if you want to talk about insulting, just read over again all of your LONG drawn out posts to me ,,,, your animosity toward what I have done is at the very least unattractive ,,,,,
    I don't not own a rifle from John Lazzeroni or Kirby..I do believe I would buy from both of them,, but I do not get RIPPING EACH OTHERS ASS on this site makes for good business practice...You both believe in your product and this needs to be handled over the phone or personal E-MAIL.....( The man that doesn't need a audience is always the winner in life and business. )
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    Re: 338 Allen Xpress, RL33 load development

    I agree ,,, I am going to delete all of my posts on this thread if I can ,,,,,
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