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Old 07-07-2009, 11:30 PM
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.338 300gr. Lapua Scenar Bullets

Does anyone have any experience with the 300 gr. lapua Scenars for hunting? I have been using 300 gr. Sierra Match Kings with good success but would like to know if anyone has actually shot game with scenars and what was the expansion like?

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Old 07-08-2009, 12:45 AM
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Re: .338 300gr. Lapua Scenar Bullets

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Does anyone have any experience with the 300 gr. lapua Scenars for hunting? I have been using 300 gr. Sierra Match Kings with good success but would like to know if anyone has actually shot game with scenars and what was the expansion like?

Thanks for any info
0 expansion. Scenars wont open period. SMK's will to a point, but Scenars are like FMJ's. Dont waste your barrel testing them.
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Please just answer one very simple question. Why would anyone shooting long range load a low BC , low SD 168 gr offering in a 300 win???????

My answer to this is. The only reason is to make the 7 RM look good. There is no other reason.

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Old 07-08-2009, 01:48 AM
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Re: .338 300gr. Lapua Scenar Bullets

Asked the same question about 3 days ago.

Have a read of this.

300 SMK Vs 300 SCENAR LAPUA ?

Let me know if you find anything good. Take a look at another thread on the Henson bullets and a bullet from Noel Carlson.

Cheers mate !

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Old 07-09-2009, 04:26 PM
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Re: .338 300gr. Lapua Scenar Bullets

Actually, the Sierra's arent meant to perform on game, either. They behave just like FMJs, which is why they're legal under the Laws of Land Warfare, a decision handed down by both our JAG International Law Branch, and the old Wound Ballistics Lab that was headed Col. Martin L. Fackler, MD (Ret.) These aren't bullet failures; they're simply doing what the bullets were designed to do. Both perform accurately, and while the SMK may be a bit more fragile than the Scenar, neither is intended to expand on game.

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Old 07-09-2009, 05:04 PM
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Re: .338 300gr. Lapua Scenar Bullets

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Actually, the Sierra's arent meant to perform on game, either. They behave just like FMJs, which is why they're legal under the Laws of Land Warfare, a decision handed down by both our JAG International Law Branch, and the old Wound Ballistics Lab that was headed Col. Martin L. Fackler, MD (Ret.) These aren't bullet failures; they're simply doing what the bullets were designed to do. Both perform accurately, and while the SMK may be a bit more fragile than the Scenar, neither is intended to expand on game.

KT
Actually, at the velocities I've used them (300gr SMK's) at (3300fps), they didn't behave anything like FMJ's on the 3 Elk I've taken with them. Two of the elk (508 and 720yds) were hit just behind the shoulder with broadside shot and double lung, other than a rib on the entrance, no bone was hit on the entrance side, neither Elk went more than about 20' (large cow and 5x5 bull). Neither bullet left an exit wound! The third elk, I hit high in the back just behind the shoulder and 2 vertebrae were removed from the animal (this elk didn't go far either), the shot was 520yds on a yearling elk.

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Re: .338 300gr. Lapua Scenar Bullets

AJ, I am guessing youre refering to the SMK's?

My experiance with the Scenars (30 cal 155's and 338 300's) act just like FMJ's.

My experiance with the SMK's is that they can and emphasis on CAN open under the right circumstances. The 338/300 grain has the best reputation of all the SMK's for killing performance. I am sure that among other things, its sheer size has something to do with it.

Kevin is correct in that neither the SMK or the Scenar was designed to expand on game. SMK's when used at the right velocity for a given model have been known to expand. The 300 SMK specifecly sure seems like it has been pretty reliable. This is largely due in part to its super high BC and subsequent ability to keep its velocity longer. This high impact velocity is what helps it open up despite the fact that it wasnt designed to do so. I imagine if you dropped the impact velocity down to around 1400-1600 FPS things might be different.
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Please just answer one very simple question. Why would anyone shooting long range load a low BC , low SD 168 gr offering in a 300 win???????

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Jeff.
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AJ, I am guessing youre refering to the SMK's?

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Yes, I edited my message to clarify.

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