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Old 01-07-2011, 12:01 AM
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308 Winchester

I've decided that before I jump into the long range shooting/hunting game by buying a new rifle that I would learn more by using my Savage 10FP in 308. I know it is capable of punching paper to a 1000+ yds but wanted to get some experienced opinions on what you feel is the capabilities on different North American game animals and which load/bullet you feel is best for that animal.
I'm curious about:

Moose, Elk, Black Bear, Deer (Mule and Whitetail), Feral Hogs

I know alot more goes into it than just bullet and yardage so I'm just looking for opinions on what you would feel is best for the 308 round. Thanks
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:39 AM
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Re: 308 Winchester

For hogs and deer the 130gr Barnes is pure DRT Poison to around 400 yards. Don't Laugh, it seriously hammers!

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Old 01-07-2011, 01:07 AM
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Re: 308 Winchester

I have no specific experience with 308 past 200 yards.

But, one rule of thumb I heard for Whitetails is supersonic and 1,000 ft-lbs of energy.

That would make 308 viable out past 550yds at least.

Hogs can be a tough animal to kill. But as they are so destructive, I'll take just about any shot I can get.
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Old 01-07-2011, 07:22 AM
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Re: 308 Winchester

I've owned several 308's and currently shoot one now. You'll find the general opinion is like the previous post, no less than 1000 energy ft pounds. That's true for any rifle. For whitetail, you don't want the animal to run off never to be found. For ground hogs...who cares! Having lived on a farm my whole life and seeing the damage they cause to tractors, wagons...etc I say kill em with anything!
I've taken groundhogs out to 700 yds with a 308 but never took a deer past 300 yds with it.
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Re: 308 Winchester

With the right bullet, powder combination you can make the .308 a legitimate 800yrd rifle for deer. There are some really good bullet out there that will perform admirably. A suggestion made to me is the 200SGK will do nicely to 850yds due to its ability to open at lower velocities (1500fps). If you go to the 208 A-max then you can go a bit farther. This is all for deer.

For bear probably 3-500yds, elk 5-600yds, moose 4-500yds. That is about as far as I would want to go. Though with a bear head, its pretty big. If you are pretty sure of your self you could go further with a well placed shot. For these three animals I would probably use the 200grn Accubond, or 200SGK for its durability to pass through.

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Re: 308 Winchester

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With the right bullet, powder combination you can make the .308 a legitimate 800yrd rifle for deer. There are some really good bullet out there that will perform admirably. A suggestion made to me is the 200SGK will do nicely to 850yds due to its ability to open at lower velocities (1500fps). If you go to the 208 A-max then you can go a bit farther. This is all for deer.

For bear probably 3-500yds, elk 5-600yds, moose 4-500yds. That is about as far as I would want to go. Though with a bear head, its pretty big. If you are pretty sure of your self you could go further with a well placed shot. For these three animals I would probably use the 200grn Accubond, or 200SGK for its durability to pass through.

Tank
Hello liltank, I wanted to ask you the other day, what powder would you recommend using for the 200SGK? Do you think a 1 in 10 twist would handle that?
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Old 01-07-2011, 08:03 AM
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Re: 308 Winchester

Last weekend was the 'last weekend' for the youth to hunt whitetails with a firearm in the State of Arkansas(bow hunting from now until Feb 28th now!!). Son got a doe during this hunt with a Savage 10FP .308Win. I ranged her at 428 yards, twice and 429 yards once(not sure what is up with that-he used info on the drop chart for 425yds) and she hadn't moved. Although not quite what I'd consider to be long range, but she bang-flopped in her tracks.
Load was his favorite Win case with Varget powder, CCI primer, and Nosler 150grBalTip. The extreme spread on this load during development was 9! Drop chart made and a rangefinder with fresh battery will put meat in the freezer out to 800 yards.


I'm going to go with the figures from the US Army of effective range of 800meters on the 308Win cartridge.(Marines call it effective to 900meters...possibly a "mine is better then yours thing?")



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