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308 vs 30-06 and other rounds? WHY is a 308 better?!?

 
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Old 01-29-2012, 11:21 PM
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Re: 308 vs 30-06 and other rounds? WHY is a 308 better?!?

In my opinion it's not any better than the '06 BUT.....for any rifleman thinking of building up an ultra accurate rifle......the .308 Win cartridge ALLOWS FOR a short action and THAT in my opine is what I would look at!! I've fired lots of Xs shooting both cartridges in NRA HP over the years....and before Xs it was Vs!!
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Old 01-30-2012, 12:12 AM
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Re: 308 vs 30-06 and other rounds? WHY is a 308 better?!?

This is a great thread. I have been loading, shooting, and hunting with these calibers for 40 years. Both are great cartridges. For hunting, I can't see a difference between the two. 400FPS more out of an 06 is fantasy. Its more like 100-150FPS max.. For sheer accuracy, and competition, I'd go for the 308. Owned and observed a lot more extremely accurate 308's than I have 30-06's.

As an aside, I read an article a while back (I believe in American Rifleman magazine) by Major Land, the instructor of Carlos Hathcock. I was surprised to read Land's claim that the Model 70 Hathcock used as a sniper was a 2 MOA rifle. Land was also responsible for commissioning the M40, Remington 700, 308 as the replacement for the Model 70's.
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Re: 308 vs 30-06 and other rounds? WHY is a 308 better?!?

I am having a blast reading this. I got both actually 2 .06's and 1 308 but 1 of the .06's is giong byby a old 721 need to pay for the new one I got oops I started repoading 3 years ago so it going to be fun finding out for my self. But I all ready know the 308 will have tighter group. For the meer reason it's my baby!
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:21 AM
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Re: 308 vs 30-06 and other rounds? WHY is a 308 better?!?

thinking of getting a Ruger American 308 anyone out there have any input?
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Old 09-08-2012, 09:03 AM
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Re: 308 vs 30-06 and other rounds? WHY is a 308 better?!?

dont know about the ruger part but the 308 all the way. Like stated befor short action. But if you want to go with heavy bulets 180 and up .06 load them yourself !
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:53 AM
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Re: 308 vs 30-06 and other rounds? WHY is a 308 better?!?

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Maybe, But throughout several wars and conflict my granfather led several brigades and the troops all had the same complaint: Hurt's my shoulder boss. My grandfather issued many complaints to higher officers. A couple years later the .308 was in ther're hands.
I find this to be the most far-fetched claim in the history of shoulder fired small arms.

Several brigades include several thousand people. Go figure out why every one of those thousands of troops all had the same complaint then surmise the ability of each one to handle the recoil of a .30-06 in a 9.5 lb (4.31 kg) to 11.6 lb (5.3 kg) M1 rifle compared to the recoil of a 7.62 NATO round in a 9.8 lb (4.4 kg) to 11.5 lb (5.2 kg) M14.

And yes, the Winchester Model 70 GySgt Carlos Hathcock used as a sniper rifle was a 2 MOA performer as tested by the US Army Advanced Marksmanship Unit at 1000 yards when that rifle was retired. When new and for the first couple thousand rounds of barrel life, it was a 1 MOA rifle with a good lot of M72 30 caliber match ammo. I talked with Carlos at the 1971 Interservice Rifle Matches at MCB Quantico and he told me then his old Winchester was on its last legs after some 4000 round through it.
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Re: 308 vs 30-06 and other rounds? WHY is a 308 better?!?

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guys this guestion has bothered me for a LONG time.

How come people say they'de take a 308 over a 30-06 or 7mm or some of the other more common hunting rounds? I havent read anything that makes the 308 a better caliber than a 30-06... at least I havent found anything that makes it a superior round to a 30-06? It obviously a little more effecient to be pushing similair velocities i guess.

I just can't see how it gets put up there as one of the best calibers out there. You can go to any forum and ask somebody to recommend a caliber MOST likely the 308 will be mentioned at least once in the first 5 replies?

I'm not trying to knock it but I just don't see where its soo great?
It isn't better in any way.
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