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Unread 04-09-2007, 04:55 AM
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Re: .308 max killing range

Ballistic is correct! Both are same caliber-.308. Only the cartridge differs.
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Unread 04-09-2007, 10:33 AM
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Re: .308 max killing range

The reason for the "HUGE risk" was I was responding about the .308.

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The first set of distances you were given would represent the distance at which the correct .308 diameter bullet would penetrate and expand suficciently to kill the listed animal. You would have to supply the time and effort and money to get the bullet into the kill zone for each animal. That is what this website is dedicated to helping you do. It will not happen on its own. The person who responded to you is capable of such shots.

The reason it matters that I said fairly small is the .300 winchester magnum is a big caliber.

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The diameter of the bullet from a .308 winchester and a .300 win mag are identical. The energy they put behind the bullet is not. They poke the same size hole. The hole from the .300 will tend to be deeper.

The recoil from the .300 normally is not unbearable if you can shoot a .308 in the same weight gun. By switching to a heavy barrel gun or by adding a muzzle brake the recoil is reduced farther. For most adults the recoil from a .300 win mag set up properly for long range hunting is not a reason to pass up on that option. Conversly, the energy from a .308 winchester is not so small that one would pass up on that option either if you can place your bullet precicsely where you want it.
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Unread 04-12-2007, 06:00 PM
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Re: .308 max killing range

I thought that you were immune to Political Corectness fever. You went and told the guy the truth then you come down with the "308 ain't a long rang gun" infection and you broke right down didn't ya!

I hear that putting 1000 yards between your target and the muzzle of your favorite 308 will have you felling better in no time.

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Unread 04-12-2007, 06:46 PM
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Yup! Just thinking about 1000 yard shots makes me feel better!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Unread 04-15-2007, 11:31 AM
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Re: .308 max killing range

Here's another question to your question to maybe help a bit better.
What is the minimum energy needed for a one shot kill for the prey listed?
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Unread 04-15-2007, 11:55 AM
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Explain how energy aids in the wounding process..As long as the projectile has enough wieght and speed to pentrate into the vitals the it will kill effectively.An arrow kills quite well when placed properly iy kills quite effectively despite minimal energy........ [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Unread 04-15-2007, 12:13 PM
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Re: .308 max killing range

So called "expert gunwriters" always have there theory on how much energy and velocity you need to cleanly take animals. They are part of the average society and think alike. On the other hand, guys that hang around here know better then to listen to them "experts".

It doesn't take 1000ft lbs to kill deer, and it sure dont take 1500-2000 lbs to cleanly take elk.

As JWP mentioned, as long as your bullet is going fast enough to reliably expand and make it to the vitals, your going to have your animal reguardless.

I"ve seen deer shot with 55g NBT out of 22-250 and swifts at 400-450 yards where there only carrying 500ft lbs at most, and they got leveled as if they were hit with anything else. Its all about shot placement and knowing your limits.

From what I've seen and read from experienced people, deer are relatively easy to kill. Poke a hole through the vitals with anything and there going to die. I figure 500-600 lbs is plenty for deer, and 1000 ft lbs is plenty for elk. For reliable expansion, I like 1500fps of impact velocity or more. I know these numbers are quite lower then what them experts say, but I've seen plenty of deer/elk killed with those kinds of numbers with no problems.

And if you really wanna get technical about it, look how many animals died from the mighty 30-30. That cartridge dont even have 2000 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle, I doubt it. Maybe, I dont know, I dont care for the 30-30, but that dont mean it didn't kill its fair share of elk. See what I mean??
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