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Old 08-17-2001, 11:26 PM
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300win need advise

has any one used 168gr hornady B.T.HP'S for
hunting? as I am new to the long shot big
game hunting could you tell me what your thoughts are on bullet selection. I belive
I have the skill to preforme well but my
long range experimentation has all been
learned through varmint rigs ie .223 .22-250
..243 .270iwth 90gr hp,s and Iknow there is bound to be a few changes needed to be sucsesfull thanks in advanced great site!
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Old 08-18-2001, 04:04 AM
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Re: 300win need advise

Jonathan

Welcome to Long Range Hunting!

I haven't used this particular bullet but I have use a 300 Win and several other cartridges.

If this bullets flies well from your rifle and you're confident in your ability it should work fine. I believe Kirk kelso uses 168 grain bullets with great success.

It's a fair bit different hunting big game at long range, read over some of the posts concerning animal behavior and game locating, it'll be valuble info for you.

Great to have you here, we're generally a very friendly bunch and willing to help. Good Luck.
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Old 08-18-2001, 01:49 PM
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Re: 300win need advise

thanks Dave I just got back from the range
with my new rifle it,s a rem.model 700stainles synthedic with a 6-18 baush and
lome in leapauld rings and bases awsome to
look at but only shoots 1.5-2.0 at 100yd my
old 300win ,a post model 70 win shot .5-.75I did not limit my testing to just loads that
worked in my old gun eather do you have any
sudgestions please help I can not belive I
sold a tack driver and bought a scatergun
good God what have I done lol
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Old 08-18-2001, 02:47 PM
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Re: 300win need advise

Jonathan

Sorry to hear that your first experience with the new rifle were less than anticipated.

First thing I'd do is sit down and recreate the days events.

What did you do differently than when you were shooting the older rifle?

How many NEW variables were involved?

Did you clean the rifle before shooting it?

Did you clean it between different ammo types?

Did you check the action screws tight? Loosen and then tighten rather than checking for tightness only.

Is the barrel touching the stock anywhere? Check the underside of the barrel too, use some folded paper to check clearance around the barrel.

Were you shooting from a bench and front rest? Did the front (or rear) sling swivel come in contact with the rest(s) or bags during recoil? Did the shooting position cause the barrel to touch anything, including the inside of the barrel channel?

Do you get a good cheek weld or is the new rifle ill fitted to your eye height?

Examine the fired brass. Anything abnormal about it, compare it to unfired rounds. Check for runout on the fired and unfired brass. Is the fired brass 'egged' on the body, or neck? If you don't have a runout guage, slowly roll the fired round across a clean, dry, flat surface and watch for 'wobble' or any out-of-roundness.

Check the crown of the rifle, there should be no nicks or unusual markings.

Open the mag. well and check the mag. box loose (it should be loose enough to move with your fingers). If it's bound up tight it may be caught between the floorplate and the action.

Check the scope, mounts and bases tight. Did you install the scope, bases and rings or was it assembled by someone else? If you're not sure about the optics system, remove everything, scope, rings and bases. Reinstall the bases, only install one base screw at a time and then check the base for tightness. If the base is tight to the action with only one screw installed, loosen that screw and install another screw and check for tightness again. Repeat this procedure with each screw and base hole... each screw MUST be able to hold the base tight to the action on it's own. Once all screws have been checked, tighten all the screws and install the rings. Check the rings for fit and tightness too. The rings should only contact the base and not touch the action.

If it still won't shoot well.... let someone else try it (preferable a good shooter). Don't 'front load' the other shooter, in other words, don't tell the 'test' shooter that you can't get the rifle to shoot and you would like him to test it. Just have him shoot it sort of as a 'how do you like it' test. If it shoots poorly for him too, I'd say it was the rifle and I'd continue trouble shooting the thing or consider a custom barrel fitting or get rid of the thing.

There's nothing more irritating to me than a rifle that won't shoot, with the single exception of a visit from my mother-in-law [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] .
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Old 08-18-2001, 03:25 PM
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Re: 300win need advise

dave thanks for all the info and for geting back so quickly al is app. and I am going to print out your reply and follow it step by
step. I tryed 165g A-max and nosler bt,168g
hornady bthp, 180gpmc sp 180g nosler bal tip
powder IMR 3031 accuret Xmr 3100 not tons of
money to spend here have two kids and one is
post heart transplant,this thing has to put meat on the table this year as I lost my job over this ordeal. got to go talk soon thanks [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-18-2001, 10:30 PM
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Re: 300win need advise

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Mr king
Thank You thank you thank you,went over your post again and did some hard thinking.....
came up with the fact that all varibles seemed in check except the scope [img]images/icons/blush.gif[/img] I had
taken it off another sience project,recolies
.22 cal Diana 54 air king modified to shoot
14.5gr pellets 1130fps and deliver .5 groups
at 75m and enough punch to take down 18lb
racoons with one shot in almost silence.....
real cool to see but evidently [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/blush.gif[/img] verry hard on
scopes so I afixed on of my varmint scopes atop of my new cannon and though I could not
get to the range set a target in a clear cut close to home and shot 5 rnds took only 2 to
get zeroed at 100paces last three shot quarter inch group [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img] all shots
were prone with harris bipod with clean barrel and with beleave it ore not the worst
load combination of this mornings shot Thank
you again....oh forgot to ask what do like to shoot and what bullet make and config. do you prefer for long range shooting and does your choice change with animal and target loads or do you preferlike myself to become
intimite with one load for both?
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Old 08-18-2001, 10:31 PM
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Re: 300win need advise

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Mr king
Thank You thank you thank you,went over your post again and did some hard thinking.....
came up with the fact that all varibles seemed in check except the scope [img]images/icons/blush.gif[/img] I had
taken it off another sience project,recolies
.22 cal Diana 54 air king modified to shoot
14.5gr pellets 1130fps and deliver .5 groups
at 75m and enough punch to take down 18lb
racoons with one shot in almost silence.....
real cool to see but evidently [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/blush.gif[/img] verry hard on
scopes so I afixed on of my varmint scopes atop of my new cannon and though I could not
get to the range set a target in a clear cut close to home and shot 5 rnds took only 2 to
get zeroed at 100paces last three shot quarter inch group [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img] all shots
were prone with harris bipod with clean barrel and with beleave it ore not the worst
load combination of this mornings shot Thank
you again....oh forgot to ask what do like to shoot and what bullet make and config. do you prefer for long range shooting and does your choice change with animal and target loads or do you preferlike myself to become
intimite with one load for both?
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