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Old 11-07-2010, 11:39 AM
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300 WSM, 338 WinMag

Good day long gunners,

I am looking to get a "bigger" game rifle and have a line on a 338 winmag that I may be able to get a good deal on.

I bought a 270 Sendero a few years back and it just doesn't have the "umpf" I'm looking for. I bought it out of emotion rather than research. I don't want to make the same mistake again. I want to be able to use it on all big game in North America to include some day, Dall Sheep, Brown Bear, Moose, etc...(you know when I win the lottery).

Can you all give me some guidance. I am not necessarily set on getting either of these, however this is what I have been contemplating. If any of you have better thoughts, please share.

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Shane
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:17 PM
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Re: 300 WSM, 338 WinMag

The 338 winchester is probably the best all around rifle made for hunting all North American game, particularly if you don't want a muzzle brake. I just finished an Alaska safari with mine and I was very pleased with it. From grizzly to dall sheep to caribou and moose it is an excellent choice. Mine is a tikka t-3 light that weighs 7 1/2 pounds scoped out and deadly accurate to 800 yards without a brake.
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:18 PM
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Re: 300 WSM, 338 WinMag

(If intent is LRH primarily):

The 270 will work on just about all NA game except for your bigger bears. Plenty of moose have died from .277 bullets. Unless of course you plan on intentionally taking "long" shots on every hunt you can. Then, yes, I can see where you would want more energy downrange.

The 338WM is a good diameter but not really considered a "long range" caliber by many.

If you don't want to make a another mistake (which I respectfully disagree regarding the 270), then you should also dismiss the 338WM as well. Not enough umph there either in terms of powder charge.

If you want a rifle that will bring confidence in most situations then consider the bigger 338s:

338-378
338 Edge
338 Lapua
338 RUM

Personally I'd go 338 Lapua with a 30" tube and buy 500 rounds of Lapua brass. You will be set for life.

(If intent is general hunting):

338 WM is hard to beat
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:00 PM
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Re: 300 WSM, 338 WinMag

Not sure if you are a reloader or not, but the 270 loaded correctly works well. But if not, then I understand the "umph" issue. There are some really good bullets out there now that make the 338WM a real threat. Should you choose that caliber, get a premium 225grn bullet and have at it. There are some really good bullets from GS, Cutting Edge Bullets, Hornady SST's, and there's one more, but can't think of them. They are pretty pricey though. LTLR knows what they are. He suggested them to me. If you really want to hit hard, then step up to the RUM, EDGE, Norma Mag, or Lapua.

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Old 11-07-2010, 07:36 PM
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Re: 300 WSM, 338 WinMag

Liltank, The 225 grain rocky mountain bullet at .773 BC and the 225 nosler AB at .55 make the 338 win mag a 1000 yard killer.Those are two I would add to your list. The 225 grain bullets with high BC's at over 2900 fps do well at anything but extreme ranges beyond 1000 yards. This year I used the new 185 grain Barnes TTSX at 3220 fps in Alaska and was very pleased with it. I now have it deadly to 800 yards.

Derek, The 338 winchester is far beyond the 270 winchester at any range. I hunt Alaska every year and no way I am carrying a 270 where I see big bears daily. The 338 winchester will put them down if I need to. I like the 270 as you do and own two in 270 winchester and two in 270 wby. They are good rifles but I would not choose them as a one rifle for everything. I have taken several caribou to 800 yards and a moose at 1100 yards with no problem using the 338 winchester. It hits way harder at long range than a 270.

I agree the bigger 338's are better but they all require a brake to shoot accurately and require a little heavier rifle that some don't like. If that is not a problem then the bigger the better. That is why most of my hunting has been done with a 338-378 wby for many years. Because it outperforms everything else. But I paid the price with additional weight and must always have time to put in my earplugs before I shoot. The 338 winchester will flatten anything without some of these extra issues. If the extra issues are not a problem then I agree go big.

I guess we just need more info really as to what Shane's parameters are. I put in another post last week if I had to pick one over the counter rifle to hunt all over North America with for the rest of my life it would be a tikka t-3 light in 338 winchester or a 338 RUM in remington 700. I have both and they get a lot of work. I also own and hunt with about everything else out there and enjoy them all for different reasons. Shane looked like he wanted one to do it all so that is why I went this way.
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:52 PM
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Re: 300 WSM, 338 WinMag

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Derek, The 338 winchester is far beyond the 270 winchester at any range. I hunt Alaska every year and no way I am carrying a 270 where I see big bears daily. The 338 winchester will put them down if I need to. I like the 270 as you do and own two in 270 winchester and two in 270 wby. They are good rifle
Of course it is. Take another look at my post. I'm in total agreement. My 270 comments were made with regard to it simply being a mistake in and of itself. And I would never suggest toting a 270 in big bear country.
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:57 PM
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Re: 300 WSM, 338 WinMag

get 338 you wont be disapointed
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