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Old 10-24-2004, 07:04 PM
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.300 Win Mag vs .300 WSM

Hi all, I address this to those of you who have SHOT both these cartridges. Given that the WSM case is more efficient,i.e. you get similar velocities by burning less powder, other issues that I'm sorting out are:-

1) Is there any appreciable difference in felt recoil?
2) Is there any appreciable difference in accuracy?
3) Is there a difference in case and barrel life given that the WSM operates at higher pressure?

I don't own a rifle in either of these cartridges so the "Is it worth switching?" question doesn't arise. All experienced advice is greatly appreciated.
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Old 10-25-2004, 01:00 PM
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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .300 WSM

I've had them both and to answer your questions:

1) Yes, Recoil is much stronger in the 300WSM but, it is a much lighter Short Action Rifle which is the main reason for this.

2)In Theory, the better efficiency and lower SD of the 300WSM allows for better accuracy but, we all know that accuracy has too many variables for one cart. to have an Appreciable advantage over another. In my case, the 300 WSM is more accurate but, that has nothing to do w/ the what cart. it is.

3)Can't help ya too much on this one. I haven't put enough rounds through the 300 WSM to know if there will be a difference but, I strongly believe that there will be very little if any difference in Barrel life between the two mentioned carts.


If every variable was the same between two custom rifles the 300WSM would probably be a better choice w/ bullets of 180 grains and less.

Good Luck!

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Old 10-25-2004, 05:33 PM
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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .300 WSM

No Way, No How the WSM has as much recoil as a 300WM.

I can't see that this is even close.

The WSM accomplishes it's duties with faster powder and less of it. To me perceived recoil is much less too.

As far as accuracy... They're both as accurate as you're willing to make them. It might be several more years before the Long Range Benchrest guys can give us a definitive answer on which is more accurate.

Barrel life.... Dunno. I haven't worn out either yet but I'm betting the difference will be very hard to measure.

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Old 10-26-2004, 12:14 AM
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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .300 WSM

Hi Reloader and LDHunter,

I had to laugh a little when I saw both your responses! I don't know of any other subject that brings about so many different perceptions of the truth! I'll take it that in rifles of equal weight, the recoil is much of a muchness, the difference in barrel wear is negligible and so is accuracy!

So, if I were to stick to bullet weights of 180gr or less, the WSM is probably the better option as the larger case of the .300 Win allows for use of heavier bullets.

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Old 10-26-2004, 02:09 AM
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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .300 WSM

It's a well known and often mentioned observation that all the WSM's furnish less perceived recoil than the belted magnums of the same relative caliber and performance.

Quoting Bryce Towsley from an article referenced in another thread....

"For reasons that have never been completely explained, the perceived recoil from the WSM cartridges is much lower than that of the similarly performing belted magnums."

His article can be found here....
http://www.gunhuntermag.com/Features/040407Magnums.html

It's really a shame that Remington won't chamber the WSM line in Varmint Synthetic rifles (short action version of the Sendero) or in their PSS line... [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

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Old 10-26-2004, 07:22 AM
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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .300 WSM

I have a 300 WSM with 2200 rounds through the barrel and still shooting 6-8" 10 shot groups at 1000. the throat has moved forward about .075, so yes I think there is a difference in barrel life with the advantage to the WSM.

The 300 WSM is equal to the 300 win mag with 190s and under in my opinion.

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Old 10-26-2004, 08:48 PM
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Re: .300 Win Mag vs .300 WSM

LDHunter,

I have read much the same about the perceived recoil being less with the WSMs. Something to do with the way a short, fat column of powder burns and peaks its pressure. Yes, I too am really disappointed that Rem won't chamber the WSMs. Their VSSFs and PSS series are amongst my favourite models for long range rifles.

BountyHunter,

Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm surprised (happily) that you reckon that the advantage in barrel wear goes to the WSM given that they do operate at higher pressures. What model is your .300 WSM?
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