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300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

 
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:31 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

I too would like to know how yall are getting 180s at 3000.
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:53 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

Long throat, 26-27" barrel and Retumbo.
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:30 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

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I think however I'm sticking with the 7 rem mag for now and here is why... Cost! ;)
I thought the same thing but I wanted a true elk caliber. I do have a 7 Rem Mag among other things, but in my opinion, if you want to shoot long range elk, get a long range elk gun. My cost effective solution was to source a takeoff barrel from a Remington XCR in .338 RUM. A good smith here on the forum sent me a low mileage barrel he had laying around for free. I traded him a Picatinny rail for a Win 70 to cover shipping.

My rifle originally started life as a model 700 30-06 so the bolt face needs to be modded- 100$ barrel screwed on- $100, + dies and reloading supplies, I already have Retumbo for the 7 Mag, so that's what I'll use for the 338. I bought an APS Painkiller for $165ish so that will need to be installed also. All told, if this thing shoots a 10" group at 700yds I'll be happy, for an extremely budget build (outside that PK break.) 10" will kill just about anything I care to at that range including Coues Whitetail.

Yes, this will be my carry/canyon rifle at under 9lbs carry weight and I plan to shoot it at everything.

700yds being my max limit for this gun, I plan to pick the bullet that gives me the best ballistics inside that range. LTLR has me sold on those 225s, but I'm still trying to get over the price. I guess shooting practice will have to come mostly from the 308, 7 mag, and 22s.

Another option is to build a Savage. You can do the smith work yourself.

Anyway, good luck, but if you plan to shoot long range elk, I'd go with an elk gun.
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:45 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

At 700 yards I'm at 2000 ft lbs still so I feel confident on elk at that distance. I will however be taking a hard look at what distance I find elk at. If my skills are up to par to take elk past 800 I will skip the 300 ultra and go straight to the 338 ultra or edge. I think the 300 ultra is capable but I'll get better barrel life out of a 338. Looking at using the new Berger 250 or CE 252 or 225 if I step up. I still feel I'm making the right decision. I don't think a 300 ultra or 338 ultra is the best caliber to start off longrange shooting. My longest shot on anything to date is 425. So until I am confident on shooting longrange at targets/rocks then I'll go after game and I think the 7 will work for my intermediate transition into longrange hunting.
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:04 AM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

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At 700 yards I'm at 2000 ft lbs still so I feel confident on elk at that distance. I will however be taking a hard look at what distance I find elk at. If my skills are up to par to take elk past 800 I will skip the 300 ultra and go straight to the 338 ultra or edge. I think the 300 ultra is capable but I'll get better barrel life out of a 338. Looking at using the new Berger 250 or CE 252 or 225 if I step up. I still feel I'm making the right decision. I don't think a 300 ultra or 338 ultra is the best caliber to start off longrange shooting. My longest shot on anything to date is 425. So until I am confident on shooting longrange at targets/rocks then I'll go after game and I think the 7 will work for my intermediate transition into longrange hunting.
You sound like you have a plan together that will work. I like that you feel the need to go 338 if going to the longer shots on elk. I also would keep the 700~800 limit for a 7 rem on elk. I don't feel a guy needs 3 rifles either. Choose either a 300 or a 7 for under 1000 and then go 338. I use my 300 win for a carry rifle but limit shots on elk to 1000. If I feel I may be in for a 1000 plus shot on elk I will be packing my 338 LM. What ever you decide on, remember it is just as important to understand how your choosen bullets works best, and at what velocity. You won't find me shooting solids especially at 900 and beyond.

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Old 03-12-2012, 01:15 AM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

If you have to question which one to build, then build the RUM first to be sure you are covered. With the higher section density you will have an advantage over the 7mag on bear. You need an exit wound for tracking
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Old 05-26-2012, 06:31 AM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

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meat loss is going to be directly related to shot placement regardless.
What bearpaw said. 180 in 300 ultra will do the job.
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