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300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

 
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Old 11-24-2011, 09:00 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

i dont think you will get a standard 7mm up to 3000 fps with 180s i shoot both a 7mm and a 300 ultra 168 barnes tsx shoot great in my 300 at 3400 fps and shot slam thru a 10 inch oak at 650 yds about the 7mm even if its an ultra mag i think you may have pressure issues if you get a 180 that fast the you will have a rate of twist issue if you ever want to shoot a lighter bullet i wouldnt go any heavier than 168 in 7mm
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Old 11-24-2011, 10:22 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

Pyro, you are asking all the right questions. I think the 160 grain class is all you need for what you are talking about. I've read a number of people using the 177 Catturuccio (spelling?) bullets running at 3025-75 and they are a thumper. One guy took a 1200 pound brown bear down at around 300 yards. I like the STW. The 300 class of bullets don't have as a high a BC as the 160-180 class 7mm. The BC will give you more accuracy and therefor more knockout at the other end.

Food for thought.
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:42 AM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

The smith I am going to use has a ton of experience with his reamer and is very confident that I would reach 3000 fps with the 180 bergers, unless I'm miss quoting him he has built many rifles that ran this. He is liking the 168 bergers more and more though and I agree. Running the numbers in bullet flight fte the 168 give up nothing to the 180 and for that matter are within like 50-60 ft-lbs of a 300 win mag using 210 bergers at 900 yards. I'm going to run 168 bergers in this

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Old 11-25-2011, 02:39 AM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

Did not read whole post but, If someone has not said it, I feel it is all about your ability to endure pain. It takes 30-40 shots before a bruise forms on my shoulder with my 7rum 180 bergers @2960 or 160 Accubonds @ 3400. The 300 Rum has slightly more energy and barrel might last longer....you will pay for that. Of course u can wimp out and put a break on it.....but, then u can't hunt with it unless u take the time to put on muffs. IMO 7mm all the way for shooting and hunting.
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Old 11-26-2011, 09:04 AM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

Four x for fun is right bigger bullet is better. More downrange energy and farther reach, also better to see impacts. A muzzle break is good, faster follow up and better for spotting shots. Most shooters shoot better with less recoil. I shoot all single shot target actions and on the bench i can shoot 10 shots in 30 seconds. If you set shells in a block you can shoot just about as fast. I also like to shoot the Beger 210VLDS 10 to 20 thous. in the rifling so they are usually long and won't fit a magazine. I have seen fire lap bullets ruin a 1000 yard heavy barrel. I think the 300 RUM is the better way to go. I also don't like belted cases. I thought the 7mm and 300 RUM used a Magnum bolt face. Matt
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:32 AM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

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Four x for fun is right bigger bullet is better. More downrange energy and farther reach, also better to see impacts. A muzzle break is good, faster follow up and better for spotting shots. Most shooters shoot better with less recoil. I shoot all single shot target actions and on the bench i can shoot 10 shots in 30 seconds. If you set shells in a block you can shoot just about as fast. I also like to shoot the Beger 210VLDS 10 to 20 thous. in the rifling so they are usually long and won't fit a magazine. I have seen fire lap bullets ruin a 1000 yard heavy barrel. I think the 300 RUM is the better way to go. I also don't like belted cases. I thought the 7mm and 300 RUM used a Magnum bolt face. Matt
I agree if you were purely speaking which bullets would kill elk better at long range, the 300 RUM wins hands down. The problem is this isnt neccesarily the best option for me right now. I want a repeater, I know you can single shot these just fine but I dont want to. So wanting a repeater greatly increases the cost just in bottom metal alone. Yes they both use the same boltface but I was informed there would be more work needed, it would be minor but still increasing cost. On the muzzlebreak I agree and I plan on installing one at some point but with the heavier barriel, not sure if Im going with the m24 contour or remington varmint contour, as well as the new stock (mcm a-5 vs the hs on it now) Im not sure I'll need one. I have no problem with recoil now and with this added weight it may be more than managable. The other point is that I am already way over budget and I have to draw the line somewhere. I didnt plan on a new custom barrel (going to use rock creek) I didnt plan on a new stock. By going this route I will have a guaranteed 1/2 MOA shooter and it will allow me to extend my ranges. After the my skills become adequate for this longer shots and the barrel gets used up. I will re barrel to the 300 RUM. If cost were not an option I would build a 300 RUM but this is not the world I live in.
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:37 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

Depends on barrel length my .284 win has a 30" but I am getting 2955fps with my 175 bergers. A good barrel and lots of development time and you can get the .284 to do a lot.
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