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Old 11-21-2011, 09:29 AM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

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1.You're pretty wrong Bravo 4. Hey, it happens and I can admit that... nobody's perfect. But now you have me convinced.
2.I find your comments idiotic. That happens as well. I am pretty much a smart alec. I for the most part was kidding around, I thought that's what these were for-
3.How many trophy's do you have! What the hell does this have to do with anything?
4.Are you training military shooters a lot. Again, what the hell does this have to do with anything? But I'll bite-Actually I do train shooters. Besides the Sniper Section I run, I happen to train several hundred a year... The Army hasn't adopted sand paper bullets yet, so we don't train with them. You will have to forgive my ignorance. I mean good grief, it looks like God is the only one who forgives ignorance these days...first the law and now you!
5.Grow up. NNNNO! OK ya got me on another one. After many years of being Airborne, Air Assault and a grunt...it's taking a toll on me, maybe I should grow up. Maybe after this years trip to Afghanistan...my fourth combat tour.
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Boy this thread went from asking about a 7mm or .30 cal to sand paper bullets are the shiz-it to me being an idiot... I didn't know I was posting on Sniper's Hide! I appologize to everybody for crapping on this post, especially the OP(nothing against you, i did say I wasn't trying to kill the messenger).

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Old 11-21-2011, 12:53 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

I do apologize and I have to admit I'm quite impressed with your service and probably your skills too. It's hard for me to see negative comments about David Tubb's I thought you were referring to his 6xc cartridge which is just another small contribution to the shooting sports he's made. He actually makes fairly inexpensive products that help improve shooting and firearms and it's tough to dispute his fundamental knowledge of rifle shooting fundamentalsand form and his website is pretty candid to anyone that views it. I don't see him as a smart alec arrogant braggard but someone that offers knowledge and seems pretty dedicated to the rifle and safe use of it.

Again, I apologize, I too was a little cranky last night.

Ed
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Old 11-21-2011, 01:32 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

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Again, I apologize, I too was a little cranky last night.

Ed
Done!

Now lets get back to arguing over important things...like which is better, 7mm or .30 cal!
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Old 11-21-2011, 04:55 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

I have a 7mm STW and it fits the distance and power I need which is under 1000 yards and I have a 338 Lapua which goes out much further. I can't figure out why someone wouldn't build a 338 Lapua Improved which is clearly more powerful than a 338 edge or RUM. Lapua improved brass if taken care of can be fired in the upwards of 25 times. It seems like a no brainer. Help me out!?
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:09 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

I keep going back and forth on this. I talked to my gunsmith again and he agreed that past 800 yards on elk the 300 would be better, he uses a 338 edge for distance elk. We discussed further and he likes a 243 variant and his edge, so different guns for different purposes. I explained that I will not have the ability ($$$) to have multiple semi custom guns and he said for a one gun longrange hunter the 300 RUM and the 210vlds are about as good as it gets.
I think however I'm sticking with the 7 rem mag for now and here is why... Cost! I discovered that I can use my rem mag action to rechamber but there will be additional cost in addition to the blueprinting, feed ramps and things like that. Also in order to run them ( the RUM) I will need to get a wyatts Box magazine or seekins dbm and this adds another 250. In addition to that I will have to install a muzzle break (would go with a DE) adding another 180$. On top of that I would need new dies 209$ for the redding competition die set which I already have for the 7 rem mag. Then there's the cost of powder and bullets, not a big difference but a factor. The farthest I have shot to date is 412 yards on a menacing rock, so I have lots of shooting to do before I go out past 800 on game I believe. So this is already building on a budget and the extra 500$ , 680 if you count the muzzlebreak, just doesn't seem feasible right now. My plan is to shoot often and save up and maybe get deals on the components I need by keeping my eyes open. Hopefully in a couple or few years I will burn the barrel up and have the funds and skills to justify the 300 ultra. In case you are wondering why not the 7 stw cost of dies and the smith said I'll use up that barrel much faster than a 7 RM. So I'll use this rem mag as a progressive step both cost wise (blueprinting action and getting a true 1/2 MOA and skill wise (less recoil and arguably a better round to "learn" with). But then tomorrows another day and I love changing my mind, just ask my girlfriend...... ohhh wait I broke up with her ;)
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:13 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

And by the way brovo4 thanks for your service and your response was hilarious ;) I refuse to grow up as well, also don't want to insult someone who just successfully harvested an animal at 1400 yards ;) yikes that is impressive
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:21 PM
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Re: 300 RUM or 7mm with 180 bergers at 3000 fps

And to all others I'm not argueing over which is better for long range elk the 7 RM or the 300 RUM. I agree the 300 RUM is the better choice for this specific purpose. Im just not sure given the combination of factors (money, shooter ability, current hunting scenario's) it's the right one. I have a feeling that it will be the next step for me however
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