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Old 06-18-2013, 09:33 PM
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Re: 30 caliber coyote rifle

westcliffe01,
I used to own a Remington 788, in .308. I reloaded some 110gr. Hornady V-Max bullets for it with some IMR-3031, that gave me a 3040 f.p.s. average and a 3 shot "clover leaf" group at 100 yards. I never tested it past that distance, so I have no idea of it's longer range abilities. However, I killed my share of groundhogs inside that distance and it ruined their day, every time.

I'm wanting to stay with lighter weight bullets and speed, so that I get good fragmentation, due to the "flatter than a road killed squirrel" area where I live.

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Old 06-18-2013, 09:47 PM
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Re: 30 caliber coyote rifle

So when you choose a car for going fast on the highway, do you take a F250 truck (30 cal) or the Corvette ?

This vs Sorry, diameter is not representative

If you want to shoot a 110gr bullet fast, then shoot it out a 6 or 6.5mm barrel.

If you try to shoot the same weight bullet out a 7.62 barrel, you just increased the drag through the cross sectional area and then still more because the bullet is so squat shaped (to keep the weight down) as opposed to a 110VLD.

You can do what you like, but ballistically it will be a poorly performing combo.

As you go up in bore size, the bullet weight and amount of powder needed to try to mimic the same trajectory go up drastically. Basically, you need to be in magnum territory shooting 165gr+ weight bullets to be effective. Cost increases drastically for everything (brass bullets powder).

Now my initial plan was to shoot an 8x57 (I actually had a custom match barrel on order for 14 weeks which never saw the light of day) and I was going to shoot Yugo M75 sniper ammo with 196gr boat tail bullets.


Even at 60c/round it was not going to bankrupt me. Then Newtown happened, then the barrel just never showed up, finally I swapped the gun for a Savage 308 and started over.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:15 PM
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Re: 30 caliber coyote rifle

Bow- the rifle is more important than the cartridge. i would get a savage 12 lrp. or similar........... inter esting. we have a this thread - shooting coyotes with a 300 mag and another thread where you tell how far to kill an elk with a .243. having shot over 250 coyotes and guided guys to 40 elk some how we got things reversed.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:39 PM
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Re: 30 caliber coyote rifle

Why would you want a .308 caliber to shoot coyotes with when there are much more efficient smaller calibers to do so...

For example...
.257 Roberts
.257 Roberts AI
25-06
25-06 AI
257 Weatherby
6.5-284 Norma
6.5x257 Wby Improved
6mm Rem
22-250
.220 Swift
.17 Rem Fireball
.257 STW

I've even taken my .17 HMR before.

The list goes on. Yotes aren't hard to kill with smaller bullets. For everything from whitetail bucks (inside of 500 yards) to coyotes (out to 1,000), I take my Weatherby Accumark chambered in .257 Wby Mag with me, when we go up to my buddy's farm. He's got some long powerlines to look down on his property, so sometimes I take the 7mmSTW, or 7mm RemMag for those long-range shots, if I'm gonna be hunting a powerline.
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:15 PM
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Re: 30 caliber coyote rifle

Ive shot a few with a 308 win using 155grn lapuas at ~2900fps and they do an excellent job. Theyll take coyotes just as far as you can. I actually liked shooting the 308 but ive switched up to a 6mm and 105s because theyre faster and have a better bc.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:43 AM
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Re: 30 caliber coyote rifle

MUdRunner- i have a 6.5-284 sendero. just wondering how you like the 257 accumark??
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:16 AM
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MUdRunner- i have a 6.5-284 sendero. just wondering how you like the 257 accumark??
Man, I bet that's a shooter! Is it the older blued finish sendero, an SF, or SFII?

I love the .257 Accumark. I've had it since late 2008. I had to buy something after my main deer rifle got stolen, so I decided to buy that. I got a smokin deal on it, too. I used to know the owner of a store pretty well, he passed away last year from his cancer coming back, and he always would cut me good deals on new guns, so I didn't mind the drive up there. What I spent in fuel was significantly less than the discounts I received.

Anyway, back to the gun... Yeah, it has been an excellent rifle. It's a little too hefty to stalk-hunt with, b/c it weighs about 12-15 lbs with that big Zeiss Conquest 3-12x56 30mm on top of it (I need to put a lighter scope with more magnification on it). That thing is a laser gun. Ultra-flat trajectory out to 500 yards. I was mainly shooting the 110 Accubonds out of it, but now have some 115 Berger VLD's I'll be shooting.

I highly recommend that rifle & caliber to anyone who is interested in the 1/4 bores. Especially those who want one for deer hunting out to 500 yards (even though the caliber itself is capable out to 1,000). If I know there's a possibility of a shot beyond 500, I'll break out the 7mm STW with the big heavies (180 Berger VLD's) out of the safe and dust 'er off.
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