From a non-gun related site, someone is saying they have an old winchester lever action 30-30 that shoots 1/2" groups at 100 yards consistently. He says that it was given to him by his father and that he has shot it for 20 years. He says that he is unsure if any work has been done to the gun, but his dad did some gunsmithing on occasion. I have NEVER seen a lever action 30-30 that will do anything close to 1/2 inch at 100 yards. I called the guys BS and started an argument.....yeah, I know, kinda futile on the internet. Anyone think its remotely possible?
Just because you haven't seen it or done it, doesnt mean its not possible. For you to call BS is a childish act in my eyes. I am only 18 now, but I use to get a lot of crap over on shooters.com when I was 17 and spent most my time there. I had guys callin BS on me half the time for shooting 400-600 yards on game animals. Saying I was far to young and didnt have the experience, blah blah blah. All I did was share my information and knowledge that I had from my own experiences and guys was gettin pissy and saying what I was doing wasn't ethical and I was full of crap and couldn't shoot that good and just making smart ass remarks in general towards me. Now to the original post. I know enough about guns and what not to know a lever action 30-30 is NOT suppose to shoot 1/2" groups regularly at 100 yards, but if the guy is saying it does then why not believe him? I highly doubt he has anything better to do then get on the internet and make up BS stories to tell. Then again I could be wrong.
I would have to say my brothers 1899 savage 30-30 will shoot1/2 groups if tightened in a vice with 150gr federals. He was shooting with me while doing ballistic test's for my 30-378 and was hitting a javex bottle offhand at 623 yards 6-10 shots hit. ( like Quigley down under). I would say B.S. But I was there and still shocked,because he can't hit S*#T with his long range deer rifle.
I have a factory Mod 94 Trapper that is good for sub 1" groups at 50 yards which is where it is sighted. Only modification is a Williams receiver sight. It does this with fair consistancy and mediocre ammo. Methinks that WITH WORK they are capable of that perhaps, but NOT with iron sights. I did shoot a 3 shot cloverleaf one day and said "I'll never do that again. So far, I'm right. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]
.. If ya REALLY wanna hear some BS, try placing a target from one of your best shooting rifles next to it on a table at a gunshow.. The infamous "1/2 inch thutty-thutty" and all sorts of other "one holers" will come out of the wood work.. The best I've heard was from a pal who had an "ex-SEAL buddy" who could "keep'em under a quarter all day long" at 300 yards with an AK..!! And would not back off.. I just quit talkin' with the damn fool..
.. The latest entry into the total BS dept was a guy down at rabbit hunting camp claiming his brother could shoot a perfect circle at 100 yards with his "thutty-thutty".. From the HIP..!!! (shhhesh.. And they ask me why I drink,?) d:^) JiNC