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Is the .30-06 a good long range caliber?

 
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Old 09-29-2010, 04:11 PM
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Re: Is the .30-06 a good long range caliber?

I woudn't choose either a 30-06 or a .270 for 500+ yrd shots on elk and bear. Will they do it? Sure but they are definitely not the best choice. 500 yard plus shots on game I am thinking 300 mags with 200 gr bullets,338's with 225-300 gr bullets. They just simply do much better in trajectory,energy retained and killing power.The reason I say this is because you say Elk and Bear ,not just deer antelope etc.
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Re: Is the .30-06 a good long range caliber?

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I woudn't choose either a 30-06 or a .270 for 500+ yrd shots on elk and bear. Will they do it? Sure but they are definitely not the best choice. 500 yard plus shots on game I am thinking 300 mags with 200 gr bullets,338's with 225-300 gr bullets. They just simply do much better in trajectory,energy retained and killing power.The reason I say this is because you say Elk and Bear ,not just deer antelope etc.

Yes, I'm hoping for the "do it all" cartridge for the game we have in Oregon.

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Re: Is the .30-06 a good long range caliber?

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I woudn't choose either a 30-06 or a .270 for 500+ yrd shots on elk and bear. Will they do it? Sure but they are definitely not the best choice. 500 yard plus shots on game I am thinking 300 mags with 200 gr bullets,338's with 225-300 gr bullets. They just simply do much better in trajectory,energy retained and killing power.The reason I say this is because you say Elk and Bear ,not just deer antelope etc.

I know it was a hunting show, but a guy stalked a grizzly and shot it dead with one shot at 538 yards. He used a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet. Don't remember what the bullet was.

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Re: Is the .30-06 a good long range caliber?

I am currently experimenting with a Remington 30-06. I must say that I am getting excited about it too. The brass is very available. They are not super powder thirsty. The 168 grain Matchkings are shooting well and are are scooting right along at 2929 FPS. Even though I plan to use this initially as a long range practice rifle, I would agree that on game larger than Mule Deer need to be limited to 500 - 550 yards. Deer and smaller probably out to 800. Not to say that it can't be done just not the first choice for me. I watched a friend kill a small Muley last year with a 223. He was shooting a speer 50 grain hollow point. The deer died with one well placed shot. However, it is not what I would recommend. Same principal with the 30-06 at extended ranges.
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:51 PM
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Re: Is the .30-06 a good long range caliber?

the 30-06 is an excellent long range cartridge. go to riflemansjournal.com . both of my 06's are very light , rem 700 mtn , and a rem 700 titanium. they both have lower powered scopes than my heavier long range rifles. i shoot a 168 berger with 50.6 grain of varget , lapua brass. 2820 fps in the 30-06. my 7mm mag is 2920 with a 168. not a real big difference. i have had a harder time personally "holding " the light weight rifles. one shoots 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards. technically that should translate into better groups than i have bee able to produce at the longer ranges. your adl is ever so slightly heavier. adjust the trigger. load up some good stuff at see what it will do. another good bullet is the 168 balistic silver tip. roninflag
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Old 09-30-2010, 04:55 AM
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Re: Is the .30-06 a good long range caliber?

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Yes, I'm hoping for the "do it all" cartridge for the game we have in Oregon.

IF there is a thing!
moose- i shoot competively out to 1000 yards. one year i shot 2000 rounds of 30-06. besides targets i have shot a quite a few elk and deer too. i have several remington 700s sporter weight. they are easy to carry for hunting. for longer shots i use a sendero in a magnum. and 6.5-20 scope. for longer shots on elk and bear a big round like a 300 wm at least. the 300 wm i have found is a very forgiving cartridge to load for too. the last two elk i shot with a a 30-06 were 11 and 26 yards. for the long shots of 500 yards+ the scope, rifle and ammo combo needs to be really really good. originally i thought you wanted to see what your 30-06 would do by loading some vld's . your "do all" round for 500 yard shots on elk and bear : get a sendero in a magnum round , a really GOOD SCOPE, and practice.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:40 AM
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Re: Is the .30-06 a good long range caliber?

One doesn't necessarily need to use heavier weight bullets as in the past for long range on target performance due to the newer bullet designs ( ie bonded core, etc). If traditonal bullet designs are used I'd say yes go for higher weights, but a new design lighter-weight bullet will perform as well or better on target while shooting flatter with higher velocities.

But it depends on the design and the intended target. Berger VLD hunting bullets are better used for deer and antelope since they open up abit faster and shed weight. I'd use a different design (bonded core) for elk.

The 30/06 is my favorite and most used.

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