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Old 04-11-2009, 09:06 AM
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.264 Win Mag for Elk

I'm getting 3100 fps using 140 gr Berger VLDs. Is this round (bullet) sufficient for Elk?

Thanks for any input.
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:11 AM
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Re: .264 Win Mag for Elk

Short awnser is YES. I was just reading some old Threads and there is one about a rifle Shawn Carlock built for a lady in 260rem and she took a nice elk at over 600yds with a 140g AMAX.

I know its not a popular show here but if you ever watch the best of the west they take elk at sick ranges with the 140g Berger all the time shot out of a 6.5x284 so with the speed you are getting in your 264win it should be a no brainer.

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Old 04-11-2009, 10:41 AM
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Re: .264 Win Mag for Elk

Welcome to LRH and enjoy! I'm sure it will be OK as long as you stay within its limitations. Shot placement is the key. Having said that, it will not be my first choice. Good luck and happy safe hunting/shooting.

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Old 04-11-2009, 01:25 PM
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Re: .264 Win Mag for Elk

IMHO the 264 using 140's is big enough for elk. The only thing I would do differently at the 264 win mag velocities would be to use a stouter bullet for elk such as the ACCUBOND or similar.
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Old 04-11-2009, 04:57 PM
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Re: .264 Win Mag for Elk

I guess I should have worded my post better. I was really concerned about the Berger bullets being substantial enough for elk. I shot a Canadian whitetail last fall using the same load. The shot was just behind the front leg. The entrance hole through the rib cage was about 6"x3". Only recovered bits and pieces of the bullet, no exit hole. It was like the bullet just blew up. Heart and lungs were mush. I should mention the shot was at about 75 yards. I would like to try Barnes TSX, but the heaviest 6.5 is 130 grains.
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Old 04-11-2009, 06:44 PM
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Re: .264 Win Mag for Elk

I think the Barnes is worth a try. An all copper bullet is a different animal than a lead core bullet. The retained weight will be higher than the jacketed bullet, thus during the impact will act like a heavier bullet than the 140g. For the distances your going to be shooting at elk any sacrifice in bc's will be minimal.

I have experience with the Swift Scirocco 130g out of a 6.5-06 on elk. Last season my son shot a big cow at 375yrds through the big bone in both shoulders and took out the front of the lungs. We recovered the bullet in the far shoulder and it retained 82% of it's weight. The bc's on this bullet are fairly impressive. Worth a look in my opinion as well.

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Old 04-11-2009, 10:41 PM
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Re: .264 Win Mag for Elk

This is a long range forum...thus what terminal performance you expect on a shoulder spine hit at 10-300 yards and respective velocity does not apply for 500-850 yard shots. I have used the 7x57 160gr X bullet for a one shot kill on a cape buff at 142 paces but doubt it would open up much at 500 yards going 1375fps. Shot placement is much easier for a hunting weight rifle 8-91/2 lbs in .264 WinMag than a .3xx Rumchester Mag for the vast majority of us hunters. Unless you can train as a sniper time and money wise...your initial intuition was correct. Leave the .338 Lapua etc. to those guys that make a living with them and stay in shape to ENJOY CARRYING 15 LBS AROUND.
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