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260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

 
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:34 PM
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

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a good barrel is only $300 -$400, if a fella can't afford that, get a cartridge that will allow several thousand rounds and quit messin with the ones that barely make 1 k, every forum you go on guys are whining about barrel life of a certain cartridge, simple : don't use it

I just necked down the 300 Norma Mag to 6.5, gave it a longer neck and a 35 degree shoulder, that will "maybe" last 800 rnds but will provide some screaming 6.5 mm ballistics at 3600-3700 fps with a 140 gr bullet, you want performance you gotta give something up somewhere,

not trying to start a fire here, just the whole "barrel life" issue should be put to rest,
if you know it's gonna burn you, you should know better than to touch it
A few hundred dollars is not chump change to a lot of people and barrel life issues are something not everyone is aware of which is why we point it out. Some people simply cannot afford to replace barrels ever year or every few years.

There's a law of diminishing returns with over bores and we'd be remiss if we didn't discuss it since part of that rule is the additional expense caused by burning up barrels.
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

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a good barrel is only $300 -$400, if a fella can't afford that, get a cartridge that will allow several thousand rounds and quit messin with the ones that barely make 1 k, every forum you go on guys are whining about barrel life of a certain cartridge, simple : don't use it

I just necked down the 300 Norma Mag to 6.5, gave it a longer neck and a 35 degree shoulder, that will "maybe" last 800 rnds but will provide some screaming 6.5 mm ballistics at 3600-3700 fps with a 140 gr bullet, you want performance you gotta give something up somewhere,

not trying to start a fire here, just the whole "barrel life" issue should be put to rest,
if you know it's gonna burn you, you should know better than to touch it
At that rate my rifle would spend more time at the smith than on the range. I think barrel life is worth considering.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:45 PM
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

Build a 6.5 Sherman, have the barrel melonited, and who knows how many rounds you could burn! I get 3200' with a 140 in a 26" barrel with great accuracy at around 3150'. I currently have approx. 1500 rounds through it and will still shoot less than 1/2 moa. This is without melonite. You can load it down with GOOD accuracy and still reach .264 mag ballistics with 75 grain capacity. Just a thought .......Rich
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:59 AM
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

Elkaholic,

your 6.5 is still a viable option and is more intriguing than the 6.5 WSM , at present I am involved in an expiremental switchbarrel project based on a Sako TRGS, KRG chassis and the 300 & 338 Norma Mag case frankensteined with 35 degree shoulders in 5 calibers (6.5, 30, 338, 375 and 416)

I fully understand my 6.5's throat killing tendencies at high velocity but will use the initial bbl to fireform brass and test its potential with heavy Norma Oryx and Lapua bullets, when the bbl's toast I'll have all my data and new barrel will be relegated for moose hunting, my 14 yr old daughter has shown to be quite proficient with my 338 Edge at 300 yards so this will be her moose thumper with less recoil but utilizing the great sd's the 6.5 mm bullets possess, especially the 155 Norma Oryx at 3500 + fps,

the thing is I am fully aware of the conditions and will proceed, my point was if barrel life is such a big concern to some shooters, they should stay away from cartridges that have the potential to burn barrels in less than 2k rnds and they will have less to piss and moan about
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

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Elkaholic,

your 6.5 is still a viable option and is more intriguing than the 6.5 WSM , at present I am involved in an expiremental switchbarrel project based on a Sako TRGS, KRG chassis and the 300 & 338 Norma Mag case frankensteined with 35 degree shoulders in 5 calibers (6.5, 30, 338, 375 and 416)

I fully understand my 6.5's throat killing tendencies at high velocity but will use the initial bbl to fireform brass and test its potential with heavy Norma Oryx and Lapua bullets, when the bbl's toast I'll have all my data and new barrel will be relegated for moose hunting, my 14 yr old daughter has shown to be quite proficient with my 338 Edge at 300 yards so this will be her moose thumper with less recoil but utilizing the great sd's the 6.5 mm bullets possess, especially the 155 Norma Oryx at 3500 + fps,

the thing is I am fully aware of the conditions and will proceed, my point was if barrel life is such a big concern to some shooters, they should stay away from cartridges that have the potential to burn barrels in less than 2k rnds and they will have less to piss and moan about
If we educate people about known barrel burners then they will know which to avoid won't they?

The main function of this website is to help those new to the sport.
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

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If we educate people about known barrel burners then they will know which to avoid won't they?

The main function of this website is to help those new to the sport.
problem is that there is a mental intellect that say the more powder to burn the better the round is. Yet some of us also know that a given bore diameter will only handle just so much powder.

I wish everybody that dreamed up a new killer round had read Ackley's books prior to putting on his or her's thinking cap. Then maybe we all would better understand why this shoulder angle and this neck length has so much to dowith the basic equation of case design. I for one have dreamed up some new super duper round more than once only to realize it was a bust before I ever ordered in the reamer.

There's also a lot to be learned from known guys like the late Ferris Pendel and Bob Greanleaf. Specially the latter as he always seems to have a new wildcat round in the works, and have yet to see one from him that didn't shoot way over the top.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:24 AM
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

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problem is that there is a mental intellect that say the more powder to burn the better the round is. Yet some of us also know that a given bore diameter will only handle just so much powder.

I wish everybody that dreamed up a new killer round had read Ackley's books prior to putting on his or her's thinking cap. Then maybe we all would better understand why this shoulder angle and this neck length has so much to dowith the basic equation of case design. I for one have dreamed up some new super duper round more than once only to realize it was a bust before I ever ordered in the reamer.

There's also a lot to be learned from known guys like the late Ferris Pendel and Bob Greanleaf. Specially the latter as he always seems to have a new wildcat round in the works, and have yet to see one from him that didn't shoot way over the top.
gary
Don't leave Mr. Weatherby out of the equation either. While the double radius design just looks stupid to me it's incredibly efficient and seems to focus the bulk of the heat in the center of the bore vs against the sides of the throat reducing throat erosion compared to conventional cases. I had this explained to me in a way I could understand finally by a good friend using a cutting torch adjusting the oxygen and acetylene flows.

After than it made perfect sense.

A few people have come up with some hellacious wildcats on various Weatherby Cartridges. They have a loyal cult following as well but really never caught on with the general public like many of the others.

That same friend had a 7mm x 300 weatherby and 6.5 x 300wby that were just nail driving screamers that were absolutely devastating open country and wheat field rigs.
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