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260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

 
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:26 PM
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

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260 Remington: I’ll write how I got there, agree or disagree…
Forty years ago Jack O’Connor wrote about all the big game in Africa and North America he either shot himself or witnessed shot with the 7x57 Mauser. Jack wrote the 154 grain bullet was the best all around bullet in the 7mm Mauser and you should recall that bullets of over 40 years ago are far inferior to the superior bullets we have today. In fact, Petzal and Barsness are both gun writers of today advocating standard cartridges over super magnums because of, in part, modern super bullet construction.

Today, the modern 7-08 is the equivalent of the 7x57 and the 260 Remington is the 6.5mm cartridge also necked down from the .308 Winchester. As we know on this forum, the 6.5mm bullets have ballistic advantages over 7mm bullets though both are excellent choices. I decided to have a 260 Remington built with a 24” eight twist barrel in front of a custom action.

I shoot 140 grain bullets; either a 140 grain Berger VLD for deer sized game or an old school, deadly 140 grain Nosler Partition for elk and moose. The 140 grain 6.5mm Nosler Partition has higher sectional density and ballistic coefficients than the 160 grain 7mm and 180 grain .308 bullet which gave me confidence in the elk and moose woods. Let’s recall how a bullet (or arrow) kills: tissue destruction AND penetration; and a 140 grain penetration bullet like the Nosler Partition in 6.5mm does the job.

Both the elk and moose I shot were one shot kills. The elk was a DRT (dead right there) high shoulder shot and the moose ran 60 yards, laid down and died after being double lunged with the partition. Jack O’Connor was right, the light recoil permits precision shooting and the excellent ballistics of the 6.5mm 140 grain bullet does a great job penetrating and killing game.

After listening to a Saskatchewan Outfitter complain about my rifle’s caliber, I took up the 140 grain Nosler Partitions in the 260 to keep him happy and dropped a heavy, mature whitetail buck right on the feed pile, DRT. The 300 magnum crowd enjoyed poking fun at my “woman’s gun”, but I reminded them that my whitetail was the only DRT that week and one of the cavemen got “scoped” which bled all day.

Had the 6.5-06 not been a wildcat, I might have considered it but I have zero complaints about the 260. Quality brass is available, my loads go into Nosler brass.

As has been discussed by others on this forum, I consider this rifle to be an easy consistent 500 yard terminator of non-dangerous game when I have time and know the exact range and it is fun to ring the 600 yard 10” gong nearly every time when I do my part correctly.
most manuals never load a 7x57 up to what it can do.
gary
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Old 12-04-2011, 02:27 PM
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

AMEN to JPH
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Old 12-04-2011, 08:02 PM
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

If one checks all the available bullets for both 6.5 and 7mm bores, they'll see there's virtually all kinds of BC's available. For all practical purposes, they're equal.

One thing most folks don't know is it took bullet makers a while to get really good, uniform jacket material so they could make very accurate bullets in both calibers. That didn't happen until the early to mid 1990's.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:25 AM
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

I shoot a custom 260 AI. I love it. It loves 142 SMK's for target and Hornady 140 gr SST's for hunting. And now that rifle deer season is over for bucks here at home I will be archery hunting, but also calling coyotes as soon as I get out of a stand in the mornings. That is the bow will go in the truck and the 260 will come out, or the 22-250 AI being rebarreled as we speak. My point is the more I read on this tread the more I think I need one of each. Now who volunteers to help convince my wife and pocket book of that. Anyone? Anyone? Maybe I would help you if you would help me.

What is that famous quote, "I never met a rifle I didn't like"?
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:51 PM
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

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If one checks all the available bullets for both 6.5 and 7mm bores, they'll see there's virtually all kinds of BC's available. For all practical purposes, they're equal.

One thing most folks don't know is it took bullet makers a while to get really good, uniform jacket material so they could make very accurate bullets in both calibers. That didn't happen until the early to mid 1990's.
several years back I was introduced to an old man (name escapes me) that made benchrest quality bullets in .223 and .243 diameters. He told me that getting good jackets was very diffecult; if not near impossible at times! He showed me about a dozen swedging dies he was using, and I remarked that they looked like they were made from Ferritic, and then hardened. Anyway he had a design for a swedging die to rework 6mm JP4 jackets into .224" jackets, and had another to form better 6mm jackets. I made him a dies and punches. The dies were from Airdie, and the punches were A2, and all was ground to a low single digit micro. Guess they worked just fine as he had me do him another couple sets in 6mm (two slightly different diameters.) Never got to watch him build bullets (I don't think anybody ever did). A few weeks later the guy that introduced him to me called me up and asked me to drop by his shop. He had four tubs of bullets that the old man sent me with a thank you note. Later he had me rework a couple of the punches, and make him several more a few tenths different in diameter. Have not seen or heard from him in about ten years, so I assume his passed away.

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Old 12-09-2011, 01:31 PM
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

It's a no contest for me the 6.5-06 Kills the 260 rem in all my experiences. I own 26" barrel guns in both, and my 6.5-06 is 450fps faster with a 140 berger VLD. the 260 is great and fine for under 4-500 yard shots as it is so easy and nice to shoot, but if you don't wanna be limited with the yardage go with the 6.5-06, 6.5-06AI or the 264WM properly loaded I would be fine to shoot deer out to the 800+ yard range and G. hogs well over 1000.
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:46 PM
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Re: 260 Rem Vs. 6.5-06

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It's a no contest for me the 6.5-06 Kills the 260 rem in all my experiences. I own 26" barrel guns in both, and my 6.5-06 is 450fps faster with a 140 berger VLD. the 260 is great and fine for under 4-500 yard shots as it is so easy and nice to shoot, but if you don't wanna be limited with the yardage go with the 6.5-06, 6.5-06AI or the 264WM properly loaded I would be fine to shoot deer out to the 800+ yard range and G. hogs well over 1000.
450' feet faster? Is this a misprint.........Rich
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