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Unread 10-02-2008, 07:41 AM
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Re: 25-06 rem thoughts

Originally Posted by Hicks View Post
I think the moral of this story is you want the bullet to stay in the animal, expending all it's energy. I would guess, and this is just a guess, that at 200 yards the 117gr GKs are not traveling fast enough to expand enough upon impact to slow down enough to stay in the animal. I would also guess that huge exit wounds, although impressive, show that much energy was not imparted to the animal, and that energy instead followed the bullet out.

Of course I could be blowing a bunch of smoke.


You would have to develop a load for every distance and weight of animal that you may possibly shoot in order to keep the bullet in the animal. I used to subscribe to this theory as well, but physically it is not logical.

The only way to insure a good killing shot, is with full penetration, from a bullet that creates a large permanent wound channel.

As far as the energy goes, there is relatively little of it. If the bullet struck the animal and did not penetrate at all, like hitting a steel target, the energy the same or less than the recoil that hit you in the shoulder. Go punch an elk in the ribs as hard as you can and see if it kills him.

In a nut shell, the bullet must expand in a controlled manner so as to retain enough mass to penetrate fully. The more blunt the shape that the expanded bullet takes the larger and more permanent the wound channel will be. The speed and shape of the expanded bullet are going to be relative to the size of the wound channel.

Having a bullet that partially penetrates is not as good as full penetration.

Perhaps we should start another thread on this subject, this is the stuff that I find fascinating.

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Unread 10-02-2008, 09:07 AM
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Re: 25-06 rem thoughts


how much ya wanting for the 25-06 barrel?
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Unread 10-04-2008, 03:05 PM
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Re: 25-06 rem thoughts

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how much ya wanting for the 25-06 barrel?
125 shipped. roninflag
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Unread 10-05-2008, 09:01 AM
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Re: 25-06 rem thoughts

Thanks guys for all the considered comments and first hand performance results.

I have made many one shot kills with the 264 that I had, and my current 7mm Rem Mag. Both strike like lightning. But as I age I feel less like carrying a heavy (ugh) rifle all day, and somewhat less like handling the recoil, tho I have never been recoil sensitive. I guess my thinking is I can finder a light(er) rifle with a 26" barrel(thats just me) with less recoil and good accuracy and striking power for long ranges. I'm leaning toward the 270 as it's a bit more horsepower on the killing end than the 25-06. I just thought that the 25-06 being a 257 calibre would fit with the recommendations of my long dead uncle who was a professional ballisitician for the US Army. He carried 257 Roberts all his life and late in life bought him a great new 257 Wby. He could never stop talking to me about .257s

I guess I am researching this so much as its a sort of a 'life change' thing. I carried the 264 for 20 yrs, and carried my 30-06 for 20 yrs, and killed game with my 7mm Rem Mag too. I even got the wife into a 30-06 after we came here to COlo as I thought her .243 was a big light for elk. But I am not changing her rifles as they are custom stock length just for her. ALso am thinking 25-06 ammo would be cheaper than 7 mag.

I guess finding the perfect all around calibre is like seeking the holy grail. I do suspect tho that my focus on the 270 and 25-06 is somehwhat the correct area to focus on.

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Unread 10-05-2008, 11:57 AM
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Re: 25-06 rem thoughts

There are very few cartridges between .257-300s that couldnt be argued as being all around best for ground hogs to elk. With such a wide selection of of bullets available in all calibers from highly frangible to tough controlled expansion bullets you can make a small caliber penatrate well for the elk and a larger 30 caliber round provide explosive performance on g-hogs.

Now if you hunt nothing larger then deer and small black bear you could easily include the .243s in the mix. If you hunted nothing smaller then deer and a good bit of large bear or elk a .338 could be an excellent choice.

I saw an arguement for the 6mmbr being an ideal all around caliber if you hunted nothing larger then deer. Great for varmints, kick some tail in your clubs informal matches and load up a 90 grain ballistic tip to slay deer inside of 300 yards or so. Not to mention extremely cheap to reload for.

Bottom line pick whats best for you or interest you at the moment, dont listen to anybody that tries to tell you a certain round is a magical sure fire death to anything from rodents to woolly mamoths or those who tell you any of the sensible rounds wont reliably kill (insert your choice of game here).

Dead is dead and a hole through the heart or lungs is a hole an will make them stop working.

Some prefer a bullet to disinegrate inside an animal with no exit as all the energy used, some prefer the bullet to exit so there is normally a better chance at having a good blood trail to followe and to insure that the bullet doesnt just break up on a bone before getting to the vitals. Then there are some ppl that dont know what they want and make radical statements that make no sense.

Take your pick an go hunting!
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Unread 10-06-2008, 08:15 AM
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Re: 25-06 rem thoughts

Silvertip - I've never regretted my decision to try a .25-06 for my general-purpose hunting rifle. It rapidly became my favorite because it's light, easy to carry, has minimal recoil & muzzle blast and does a fine job on game. I'm primarily an open-country mule deer hunter, and I shoot coyotes and rockchucks too. The .25-06 has been a delight to carry and hunt with.

4x4 mule deer:

3x3 mule deer:

Coyote last week:

I have more accurate rifles. I have more powerful rifles. This one though, is easily my favorite hunting rifle. By the way - if you're a handloader, the .25-06 is very easy to load with many different combinations of powder and bullets available.

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Unread 10-10-2008, 07:29 AM
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I got two of my four spare rifles sold and and am trying decide between buying a 270 and 25-06 for all round use( voles to elk ). Can I get some more input on the 270 vs 25-06 thing? From my research so far it looks likethe 270 trumps the 25-06 as it shoots flatter farther and hits harder. Ammo cost seems nearly the same.

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