Originally Posted by RT2506
At this time I have rifles in 270 Win, 6.5X55, 308, 30X47 HBR and 25-06 set up to deer hunt with and I use them all but it has taken a few years experimenting to come up with the proper bullet powder combo with some to make them drop deer in their tracks killers. With the 25-06 and our average shot of 300 to 500 yards a 117 Sierra will drop them in their tracks 99.9% of the time.
RT, I've found your comments on this cartridge very interesting. A buddy of mine has a custom Mauser .25-06 that I can shoot dime sized groups at 100 yards with. He too loaded the 117gr Sierra GK. Not sure what the load consists of but it's listed in the Sierra book as their most accurate tested. That gun shoots so well I bought a Remington BDL in .270 that I'm going to screw a .25-'06 bbl on to this winter.
I felt the need to chime in here, and I have several questions. Why in your opinion is this cartridge as effective as you've seen? You mention that the shots you took were "through the shoulder" and that with the .25-'06 the animals dropped instantly but ran off with the 7mm RM. Would you say that the shots with the two cartridges are exactly comparable? Were bones hit buy the bullets going in, or out, or both?
I watched my GF take her first antelope at a measured 284 yards yesterday with that Mauser .25-'06 and the 117gr GK, in the Shirley Basin of Wyoming. The doe was hit behind the shoulder, and lost a rib going out in the process, but still managed to run about 100 yards before piling up. Then I watched another one get COMPLETELY flattened by a 240gr MK out of a .300 RUM at just over 300 yards with a shot that was just a bit too far back. I know Sierra says they don't recommend that bullet for hunting but WOW. The exit wound looked like a bomb blast even though a rib was hit going in. But I digress.
I once shot a buck antelope right in the middle of the front of the chest with my 8mm RM and a 200gr Partition, at maybe a touch over 200 yards. The bullet sailed completely through, front to back, and made a nice 8mm sized hole out the back end. After being hit the buck WALKED about 25 yards before LYING down. Very anti-climactic. Yet I watched my dad kill a huge dry cow elk at almost 400 yards with a .30-'06 and a 180gr GK, by taking a high shoulder/spine shot. At the shot all four of her legs splayed out and she looked like she was flattened by Mjollnir itself. Now obviously the 8mm RM is completely overkill as an antelope cartridge, and many would say that the old '06 is marginal for elk at that distance, yet the results of the two shots could not be more different.
My point is that, as we all know, there are MANY more factors to consider than cartridge selection when talking about the dynamic way in which animals react when shot. I don’t mean to discount your experience, and in any case your comments have more solidly grounded my decision to make my own .25-’06.