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Old 10-10-2003, 05:33 AM
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25-06 long range load

I am looking for a longrange load for deer for my 25-06. The 115 gr Nosler BT with RL22 looks like a good one so far. Would I be better go with the Partition or a Barnes X. I would like go 400 to 500 yds. What is the best long range combo for the 25-06.
Mark
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Old 10-10-2003, 07:42 PM
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Re: 25-06 long range load

Hello Mark,

I'm a 25/06 fan and will be until Hell freezes over.

I'll not go into my loads as your rifle is an individual and you must work it up as such. My rifle loves IMR4350 & RL22.

I've had poor results with the Barnes bullets in all my quarterbores. The Nosler BT is a fine bullet, especially at the ranges you are considering. Avoid the heavy bones as even the 115 likes to come apart.

My preference is the Sierra 100 MK....I know....it's not a hunting bullet. The little Sierra pill has however, done a wonderful job for me over the last few years. I always wait for a lung shot. My max range is 700-800 yards due to my current skill level and equipment.

Be sure to test your loads at 300 yards or better before you trip to the field. Small calibre bullets are unforgiving at long range when considering wind drift. This is where the Sierra really shines.

I have had great reports with regard to the Hornady 117 SST but can offer no personal data regarding terminal performance at this time.

Good luck.
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Old 10-11-2003, 10:44 AM
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Re: 25-06 long range load

I use a 25-06 most the time, I'm a fan of 257 cal...

Mine is a Ruger MkII Target/Varmit model 26 inch stainless bbl...

it's a decent gun... topped with a Leupold 6.5-20x50..
Groups vairy depending on how long you let the barrel cool... it's a semi heavy barrel.. but shooting 3 shots at 200 yards in 2 minutes yeilds like 2.3 inch groups... 3 shots in 10-15 miniutes yields 0.95-1.00 inch groups at 200 yds.. 1/2 moa... okay, but nothing to brag about..

I have shot only 3 dif bullets, the 75 Sierra HP's, the Nosler 85 BT's, and Berger 115 VLD's
The Bergers are the most accurate...5/8 to 1/2 moa or less...
I seat the 115 VLD bullets just touching the lands... CCI BR-2 primers, Rem case (extensively prepped), 53.0 of Re-22
good case life...
You could go hotter if you back the bullet away from lands... but those VLD's work better from what people tell me seated touching or into the lands... I e-mailed Walt Berger, and he told me generally that is pretty much true..


The 85's are good, groups are between 5/8 and 1.1 MOA at 100... maybe 3/4 moa to 1.2 MOA at 400 yards, or less than MOA avg..
okay for 500-600 yard coyotes...
I use between 57-59/60 grns of H4831 with the 85's 0.010-0.020 off lands..
Vel is between 3705 down to 3450 fps... the faster is less accurate and hot..

The 115 Bergers might only leave at 3100-3200 fps, but by 400 yrds are faster, and keep the velocity for a LONG time...

I have not killed a yote with the Bergers, and do not know if they expand much, I know I have seen pics of poeple who use matchkings and get great results, anyway Terminal Velocity shock "kills", no 22-250, 220 Swift, 223 WSSM (with any bullet) can hold a candle in the velocity department to a 25-06 with 115's at over 500-600 yards..
at a range (700-800 yrds)where the hottest 22 centerfires would be bouncing off coyotes,
(or esp deer)
those 25 cal 115's would rip right "through
em" with no problem..

other calibers I am impressed with (but do not have yet) are .243/6mm and .264/6.5mm.....

anyway, enough with my jabber, WORK UP to the 53.0 Re-22 in 115-117 loads.. let us know you do.

scott

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Old 10-12-2003, 12:10 AM
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Re: 25-06 long range load

Got a good friend that just gave me an antelope report from his 700 .25-284. Shot his small buck in the head (i take it the only shot he had at >500 yds.), and killed it. I can't recall the exact distance. Another one was taken by his friend using the same gun at 490-some yds.-- kill, and slightly over 300--kill. He uses the 115 Nosler. But i'd bet that 117 SST would be fun to work with with a little OAL base-ogive sorting.

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Old 10-13-2003, 07:12 AM
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Re: 25-06 long range load

Ok, so I shoot a stock 25-06 REM700 Sendero SF with 115 grain Nosler BT and Partitions using 61 grains of Retumbo into <0.5 MOA no problem with many groups 3/8 inch at 100.

Average velocity: 3160 fps, Es: 16, Sd: 6

So what would the max range be for deer using the 115 grain Partition at 3160 fps?

Couldn't get the 117 grain SST to group as well as the BT and Partition. 100 Grain Barnes XBT were 1 1/2 " at 100 yards.

Just got some Berger 115 grain VLDs. Haven't worked up a load for them yet.

Would the 115 grain Berger VLDs be any good on deer?

Doug


The Nosler 85 grain BT goes 3380 fps with 58 grains H4831SC pushing it and shoots <0.5 MOA also.

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Old 10-13-2003, 03:14 PM
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Re: 25-06 long range load

My favorite LR load for my Ruger 25/06 was a 115g Combined Technology Silvertip, 57.5g of IMR-7828, Rem Nickel case, Fed 210, and OAL of 3.250". It would usually shoot 1/2" at 100 yards and was scooting along right at 3400fps. I shot the majority of my deer with them, farthest was 604 yards. I would recommend you start at about 48-49g if you intend to use this load, it is over the Nosler #4 by a couple grains.
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Old 10-14-2003, 07:45 PM
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Re: 25-06 long range load

Geeezzz, man that is one HOT load... a 25-06 shooting 115's at 3400 fps... your gun is in serious stress.... 3250 fps is pushing it with a 115-117...... 3400 fps is about 3000 ft lbs of muzzle energy.... allot for a 25-06..
be careful

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