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25-06,270,7mm,300mag..not a nickles worth of difference

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Unread 07-18-2009, 05:54 PM
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Re: 25-06,270,7mm,300mag..not a nickles worth of difference

oh,, and for what it's worth.. last year i shot a buck in a neighboring state at 95 steps... the gun???... a .50 cal. muzzleloader shooting a patched round ball in front of 70 grains of black powder... just for kicks... check out the velocity and energy at 100 yds for that.... the buck made it two short hops and down..... that load friends has wayyyyy less velocity and energy at 100 yds than a 25-06 , 270, 7mm-08 ect... has at the ranges were talking about.
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    just curious shade mtn. are you from snyder co. pa.?
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    Re: 25-06,270,7mm,300mag..not a nickles worth of difference

    Huge difference in my opinion. A 300 win mag ruined all of the meat from neck down guts with a rediculously large exit hole on a blacktail buck. The exiting side of the deer shoulder bones were gone. It was dissappointing to lose that much meat especially most of the back strap was ruined.

    Yet every one here is right. Any of those mentioned calibers will put big game down with good shot placement.
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    Re: 25-06,270,7mm,300mag..not a nickles worth of difference

    Interestingly enough, since this thread started, I found a good deal on a Sendero 25-06. I've been looking at the ballistics of this cartridge and I am fairly certain I can get 3200 fps with a 115 grain, .453 BC bullet and possibly 3300 fps out of my long throated 26 inch Sendero. IME, that would make it a 700-800 yd deer rifle and antelope rifle and a real sweet shooter.

    Will use the 300 RUM for elk.

    I am liking the idea of this 25-06
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    yobuck... i am actually from juniata county. Where are you from?
    seems i could be getting misunderstood here. I am not saying a 25-06 has as much power as a 300 mag ,,sure their is a big difference in power, but what i am saying is at moderate range it kills just as quickly, if i shoot a deer in the shoulder with my 300 mag and it drops on the spot , and i shoot a deer with a 25-06 and it drops on the spot, dead is dead regardless of how much damage was done or meat loss ( actually i have found the 25-06 to be hard on meat at less than 200yds) nor would i choose a 25-06 for marginal shots. i once shot a nice buck at right around 300 yds on a power line he ran straight across and never stopped till he was just inside the woods, and then he was walking straight away, i put the crosshairs of my 300 win on the base of his tail and squeezed the trigger i found him piled up right where he stood the bullet went in the right ham and exited the left shouder, i would not have taken the shot with my 25-06 yet a broadside shot at that range would have resulted in a dead buck regardless of caliber... thus with a good shot and a good bullet " not a nickles worth of difference"
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    oh,, and for what it's worth.. last year i shot a buck in a neighboring state at 95 steps... the gun???... a .50 cal. muzzleloader shooting a patched round ball in front of 70 grains of black powder... just for kicks... check out the velocity and energy at 100 yds for that.... the buck made it two short hops and down..... that load friends has wayyyyy less velocity and energy at 100 yds than a 25-06 , 270, 7mm-08 ect... has at the ranges were talking about.
    A .50 cal round ball also makes a big hole. You dont have to worry about the bullet expanding because it is already expanded. That bullet also wieghs wayyyyyy more than a 110 -120 gr 257 bullet and although the velocity is less the weight makes up for it giving it better momentum which is what pushes a bullet through an animal. Forget the energy. Energy dont mean didly. Momentum is the best measure of the force of a bullet.

    But hey, I'm with ya on the 26-06... up to 700-800 yds, depending on the MV of the bullet. But If I step out the door looking for elk, I'll be carrying a 30 cal rifle if I have one.

    -MR
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    seems i could be getting misunderstood here. I am not saying a 25-06 has as much power as a 300 mag ,,sure their is a big difference in power, but what i am saying is at moderate range it kills just as quickly,....

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