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Old 12-27-2012, 07:53 PM
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Re: 243 or 25-06

My latest Nosler manual, version 7 ,shows for the 25-06 a velocity of 3361fps with a nosler 100 grain ballistic tip.That bullet shows to have b.c. of.393.In .243, the 100grain nosler bullet shows a velocity of 3144fps and a b.c of.384. To me those numbers dont lie. The extra 200 fps is a big deal to me. I dont use Berger bullets so I cant speak for or against what some of the other guys are saying about them. I have used 25-06 with much success on whitetail. I think it is the more versatile round of the two. Factory ammo is not as cheap or as easy to find for the 25-06 , but its not a deal breaker IMHO.
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:31 PM
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Re: 243 or 25-06

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I think a big question here is do you reload ?
This is LRH so I assume everyone reloads or they would not ask the question here. Factory ammo is not LRH suitable. 500 yds yes but that is still short range.
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:38 PM
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Re: 243 or 25-06

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My latest Nosler manual, version 7 ,shows for the 25-06 a velocity of 3361fps with a nosler 100 grain ballistic tip.That bullet shows to have b.c. of.393.In .243, the 100grain nosler bullet shows a velocity of 3144fps and a b.c of.384. To me those numbers dont lie. The extra 200 fps is a big deal to me. I dont use Berger bullets so I cant speak for or against what some of the other guys are saying about them. I have used 25-06 with much success on whitetail. I think it is the more versatile round of the two. Factory ammo is not as cheap or as easy to find for the 25-06 , but its not a deal breaker IMHO.
Actually those numbers obviously lie. You evidently picked two different bullets for your comparism. I am thinking it wasnt intentional so here goes. You cant have a bc of a higher number with the same weight and form factor in a larger caliber. Its impossible. If the two bullets have the same shape the smaller diameter will have a higher bc.
If you compared apples to apples the 243 pastes the 06 due to bullet selection alone. If you tie any gun to 1 bullet its not real anyway. Whos gonna shoot a .384 bc in a 6mm anyway?
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:06 PM
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Re: 243 or 25-06

I am a deer hunter not a ballistic specialist . I consider 400 yards a long shot. I'm not sure it's fair to the animal to shoot at any distance further. That's just my 2cents. As for the bullet comparison I did compare a .243 partition to a .25 ballistic tip. Nosler doesn't offer a 100 grain BT in .243. The 100 gr PT in .243 does have a higher BC than the .25 100 gr PT. There is however still a 200 fps difference in 25-06 over the 243. Like I have said before , speed matters to me. I do like the .243 though. If I did more target shooting I would probably have one. I actually do have a .243 put back for my 3 yr old son so I guess I will be reloading for it in about 3 yrs.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:36 PM
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Re: 243 or 25-06

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I am a deer hunter not a ballistic specialist . I consider 400 yards a long shot. I'm not sure it's fair to the animal to shoot at any distance further. That's just my 2cents. As for the bullet comparison I did compare a .243 partition to a .25 ballistic tip. Nosler doesn't offer a 100 grain BT in .243. The 100 gr PT in .243 does have a higher BC than the .25 100 gr PT. There is however still a 200 fps difference in 25-06 over the 243. Like I have said before , speed matters to me. I do like the .243 though. If I did more target shooting I would probably have one. I actually do have a .243 put back for my 3 yr old son so I guess I will be reloading for it in about 3 yrs.
At 400 yards the .25 100NBT is a great bullet and works well, but the OP is not being helped with that info, he is asking about longer range. Stick a 105 A-Max in the the 243 with a .500 BC and see what happens. Go to a 115 and watch it eat the .25s lunch.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:44 PM
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Re: 243 or 25-06

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I am a deer hunter not a ballistic specialist . I consider 400 yards a long shot. I'm not sure it's fair to the animal to shoot at any distance further. That's just my 2cents. As for the bullet comparison I did compare a .243 partition to a .25 ballistic tip. Nosler doesn't offer a 100 grain BT in .243. The 100 gr PT in .243 does have a higher BC than the .25 100 gr PT. There is however still a 200 fps difference in 25-06 over the 243. Like I have said before , speed matters to me. I do like the .243 though. If I did more target shooting I would probably have one. I actually do have a .243 put back for my 3 yr old son so I guess I will be reloading for it in about 3 yrs.
tRight but you are posting on a LRH website posting about LRH. 400 is uhh how do I put this...close. When you compared the two bullets you didnt realize that the 6mm bullet if it was the same would pound the 25 even with 200 more fps. FPS does matter just not as much as bc past 400. The 25 is a fine short range gun and if anyone ever whoops up some real bullets itll be a fine LR gun. At the moment its not but that is my OPINION and I consider LR to start at 880 so take it with a grain of salt.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:57 PM
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Re: 243 or 25-06

BKKNUP can I ask you a question? And Im not trying to be mean its an honest question.
Why are you on a website called long range hunting when you consider 400 to be past the limit of effectiveness?
Do you realize that people kill deer at 3 times that distance with absolute regularity in the wind? Im not bustin on you here I just have noticed that many of the members now seem to not have any concept of what we do on here. Its frustrating to have good advice countered by someone who has never even done what hes posting about. If you guys were here to learn I could see that but it seems as if many are just bored and wanna tell everyone its ok to shoot a grizzly at 1200yds with a 223 because they killed a deer with one out of a treestand at 15 ft.
And this isnt directed at you, you missed a bc no big deal, but there are much worse on here at times.
I dont mean anything bad by this I just want to understand the mindset of you guys so that I can figure out why guys who never shoot past 400 and dont plan on it are on here giving advice. I just dont understand I guess.
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