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230gr VLD LAZZERONI 7.82(.308)WarbirdŽ

 
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:26 PM
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Re: 230gr VLD LAZZERONI 7.82(.308)WarbirdŽ

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B23 ,,,,,,

if my old digital powder scale still works, I will measure myself next week, the water capacity of the current Warbird brass case ,,,,,

Mudrunner ,,,,,,

now you know what I go thru ! ,,,,, just too many possible combinations for one man to try,, LOL ,,,,,,

the good thing is that I believe the Lazz 7.82 Warbird caliber is today, exactly what it was when I drew it on a napkin back in 1994, one of the best 30-cal Super-Magnum cases ever ,,,,,

and I do not say that lightly, as I am fully aware of what the competition has done ,,,,

back then I simply wanted a cartridge to meet or exceed the performance of my then wildcat 30-378 Wby Mag, but in a modern, beltless case design with a 30 degree sharp shoulder, and a chamber/throat design that allowed bullet seating against the lands, without making the loaded cartridge so long, that it would not fit in the Lazz rifle mag box ,,,,,,

the Warbird has exceeded ALL of my expectations, and this same exact case design, including headspace measurements, is used for all Lazz long magnum calibers, from .284 thru .475 ,,,,, ((see www.Lazzeroni.com ))
Well, if you need some help testing, just holler at me.
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:28 PM
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Re: 230gr VLD LAZZERONI 7.82(.308)WarbirdŽ

A 230 hybrid at those speeds is impressive as hell. Can't wait to hear how they shoot at 1000. Would love a side-by-side comparison to more typical Lazz factory fodder in a 5-10 full value wind.
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:40 PM
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Re: 230gr VLD LAZZERONI 7.82(.308)WarbirdŽ

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A 230 hybrid at those speeds is impressive as hell. Can't wait to hear how they shoot at 1000. Would love a side-by-side comparison to more typical Lazz factory fodder in a 5-10 full value wind.

Another pattern of comments is appearing from LR hunters.

Hmmmmm, I wonder if taking your recommendation how the results will fair?

I think we know and have always said this.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:13 PM
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Re: 230gr VLD LAZZERONI 7.82(.308)WarbirdŽ

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Finally got some reloader 33 and the Berger 230gr Hybrid Tactical bullets and went to work.

data below is with Fed 215M primer and the bullet seated up against the lands at an OAL of 3.705", with stock factory Lazzeroni chamber & throat dimensions, 28" 10 twist poly barrel.

((Please do not EVER load the Lazz Warbird cartridge over 66,900 PSI))

97gr ----- 3,066 fps --- 62,400 PSI
100gr ---- 3,184 fps --- 66,500 PSI
103gr ---- 3,267 fps --- 76,800 PSI
106gr ---- 3,368 fps --- 89,000 PSI --- Primer Perf, Proof Pressure

Targets and rifle photo below ,,,,,,
John, very interesting. Thanks for posting your results. Now tweek that load in and stretch her out. With a 230 Berger at those velocities she will just be shifting into over drive at 1000. So take her on out, you don't have to stop short like with those little light hard bullets. She will be an elk hammer way past 1000.

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Thanks and keep us posted.
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Re: 230gr VLD LAZZERONI 7.82(.308)WarbirdŽ

mudrunner ,,,,,

I know this will sound funny to many, but I no longer use a digital scale to load ammo, (balance beam type only) so that is why I need to check to see if I have an old one still working ,,,,

I will get this done next week and post it ,,,,,,
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Re: 230gr VLD LAZZERONI 7.82(.308)WarbirdŽ

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mudrunner ,,,,,

I know this will sound funny to many, but I no longer use a digital scale to load ammo, (balance beam type only) so that is why I need to check to see if I have an old one still working ,,,,

I will get this done next week and post it ,,,,,,
Hey, whatever works best for you, is what you should use. Do you not trust the new digital scales, or automated weighing systems? Just curious, sorry for prying.

I love my Chargemaster 1500. I keep it calibrated and since I did the McDonalds straw trick, and adjusted a few parameters in the programming, it's faster and WAY more accurate. I would venture to say that it hits dead-on 6 out of 10 (now), whereas before was maybe 2-3 times out of 20. I still adjust each and every charge of powder to get dead-on to the 0.0. I believe accuracy and precision in powder charge is just as important as consistancy in seating depth. Also, I'm a bit OCD, so that doesn't help with perfection.
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Old 12-07-2013, 07:07 PM
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Re: 230gr VLD LAZZERONI 7.82(.308)WarbirdŽ

when we are loading ammo and pour 700-900 powder charges per day, +/- .10gr, it is easy for the persons eyes to fixate on only the decimal point on the digital scale, and then trickle up to the correct decimal measurement ,,,,,

but if the big powder dispenser suddenly drops a charge that is a full grain above or below what you have it set for, and then the person running the trickler only looks at the digits to the right of the decimal point, you end up a full grain of powder under or over what the spec is ,,,,,,,

when using the good o'l balance beam scale, it is either in the middle with the correct charge or it is not ,,,, no room for error to creep in ,,,,,,
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