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Old 10-07-2004, 04:03 PM
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204 Ruger

Hello is anyone out there shooting with 204 ruger?I am in the maket for a varmint rifle and was looking at 22-250 or 220swift.204 looks good good on paper!
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Old 10-07-2004, 05:16 PM
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Re: 204 Ruger

stick with a swift.
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Old 10-07-2004, 05:16 PM
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Re: 204 Ruger

If you want to ZAP little critters out to 200yds or so the 204 Ruger should be fine. For shooting longer range you will find that the tiny 32gr bullets loose velocity very quickly and are rather wind sensitive.

From 200yd to 450yds the 22-250 or 220 Swift with 50-60gr bullets win hands down.

I might add, however, that I've killed groundhogs out to 350yds with my .221FB and a 40gr B-Tip,so its not impossible to stretch the practical limits of the 204 or any other cartridge. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 10-15-2004, 09:51 AM
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Re: 204 Ruger

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From 200yd to 450yds the 22-250 or 220 Swift with 50-60gr bullets win hands down
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Please tell me why you feel this way. Besides possible wind deflection (which can be equally learned for all trajectories) I personally don't see the "hands down" win.

The 204 is flatter shooting than either you recommend. Has plenty of energy for varmint sized game.

200 yards is far far far away from the lethal limit for small critters, coyotes...Maybe, but ground hogs, squirrels, and prairie dogs have been taken well further than twice that range.

From Hornady's website
.220 Swift, 50 gr. V-MAX MOLY
100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd
0.80 0.00 -4.80 -14.80 -31.80

.22-250 Rem., 40 gr. V-MAX
100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd
0.60 0.00 -4.50 -14.20 -31.70

204 RUGER 32 GR V-MAX
100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd
0.6 0.00 -4.1 -13.1 -29.0

With a lot less powder, recoil, throat erosion, and longer brass life.

Please explain your position.

Thanks
Jim

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Old 10-15-2004, 04:32 PM
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Re: 204 Ruger

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I have a Rem.VS 22-250 and a Rem.ADL 204, I would recommend that you get a 22-250 before you get a 204. Yes the 204 looks good on paper but the 22-250 is a tried and true cartridge. I love my 204 and I did make a 627yrd shot on a whistle pig, but if I had to give one up it would be the 204.slygunner

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Old 10-15-2004, 11:22 PM
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Re: 204 Ruger

This is one of those theoretical discusions, on paper. A 220 Swift and a 204 Ruger are so different that you cannot crunch those numbers and prove your point. There is nothing new, under the sun. In this case, bigger is better, in every measurable aspect of performance. Terminally speaking.

You have wind to consider; and the various presentations. A 220 Swift is not a squirrel cartridge, and the Ruger (actually) is neither fish nor fowl. For me, at least, it is hard to define. I don't see it as a serious chambering for large predators; and this is where the Swift excells.

So, if it drops an inch more, or an inch less at 500 yards, that doesn't begin to tell the whole story. The original question mentions that the man is interested in a 22-250 or a 220 Swift, but the 204 "looks good, on paper".

That's about the only place it will compare to a Swift, IMHO.

Good hunting. LB
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Old 10-28-2004, 04:39 PM
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Re: 204 Ruger

But the .204 is soo cool [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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