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Unread 02-26-2012, 10:42 PM
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Re: 20 practical?

I've kinda thought about the grendal with already having a .260 but I really like what I read on performance of the .204 ruger. Having used and hunted with an at in .223 got a few years I just feel that it lacks when range comes into play. With the .204 based off a 3500 fps and a .40 berger I still have almost 2300 fps and better than 450 ft lbs at 300 yards which is plenty for a yote. And again the cost is attractive, I have probably 2k .223 brass left over from an ar I sold and no longer have a 223 so it would give me a use for my brass. I'm not set on the .204 just addressing what is brought up. Thank you for your quick replies.
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Unread 02-26-2012, 10:56 PM
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Re: 20 practical?

Also I guess to add, the noise factor is a marginal concern as well as some of my shooting will be at night. Also 300 yards would really be pushing it, most of the coyotes I've shot have been <150.
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Unread 02-27-2012, 01:10 PM
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Re: 20 practical?

If youre looking for a truck gun that you can throw around and you already have an AR-15 lower, why not just get a cheap but good 5.56 upper?
.223/5.56 ammo is everywhere and you can find it cheap for the surplus ammo.
Ive been thinking of a truck rifle as well, and Im either going to get an ak-74 side folder
or an AR-15 with a 10" barrel (unless I decide I dont want to go through the hassle of the $200 tax stamp ATF bullcrap, then Ill just get a 16")

The 5.56x45 and the Russian 5.45x39 are very good varmint destroyers. You can get that 5.45x39 russian ammo for dirt cheap, something like 15 cents a round and its very lethal stuff
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Unread 02-27-2012, 04:23 PM
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Re: 20 practical?

As I stated before, I feel like the .223 performance lacks, even more so when you cut the barrel length down. Secondly I've made the mistake of using surplus ball for hunting twice. Both times were good shots, one at 25 yards one at 75 yards lost both. According to shooter a 40 gr 204 at 3500 has over 400 fps and about 100 ft lbs better and half the drop that my pet load for the .223 has at 300 (55 gr b-tip at just over 2900). Fps number on the .204 is a guess of what I could attain from a shorter barrel. In looking at the .20 practical, it seems like I gain a lot over a .223 performance wise and is cheaper to produce. But again this is just how I see it and looking for the best route to go. Again thank you all for the replies, keep the input coming
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Unread 02-27-2012, 07:58 PM
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Re: 20 practical?

This will be useful to you. Give Robert Whitely a call. He will talk to you and answer your questions about the practical. He developed the cartridge and is very knowledgeable. Here is his site with some uppers for sale. I'm sure he can answer your questions about a practical in a 16" barrel.

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Unread 02-28-2012, 06:43 PM
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Re: 20 practical?

You might try Scott Milk at Specialized Dynamics. I read on the Predator Masters forum a few days ago that he now has a reamer for for the 20 Practical. He may be able to make the barrel exactly the way you want it.

From what I've read, it is an intriguing round. Let us know how it turns out.

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Unread 02-29-2012, 09:37 PM
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Re: 20 practical?

Originally Posted by Korhil78 View Post
Just a question and another suggestion. Why do you want to go with a smaller caliber when you are going to be doing quick shots at coyotes and such?

I have attempted some quick shots on coyotes with a 220 swift and have hit them a little far back. Those yotes ran FOREVER. I knew that they were going to die but I never found them. I don't like to make any animal suffer after being shot even though I can't stand coyotes. I switched to a larger caliber (6.5 Grendel AR) and have never looked back. I use the Nosler 120 gr. BT and it works awesome. If I hit them a little far back, it doesn't matter. If I hit them in the hind legs, it doesn't even matter because that 120 gr BT breaks bones all the way through.

Not trying to sell you on the 6.5 Grendel even though it is an awesome Coyote cartridge. But I am trying to sell you on going with a heavier, harder hitting round.

+11 on the 6.5 Grendel....switched to one for my primary calling gun a couple years ago.......much better than my old 223. One of my partners shoots a 204 upper and it works, but the 6.5 hits them with much more authority. No need to double shoot them like we sometimes have to do with a 223 or 204.
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