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2 TX Deer with SGK's

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Unread 11-11-2004, 02:24 PM
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Re: 2 TX Deer with SGK\'s

Charles Arbuckle - Your right I didn't word that very well. High speed small bullets that can go though 1/2 inch of mild steel at 200 yards are not really suited for broadside lung shots on sub 250 lbs thin skinned game. It just passes though without much damage at all. Without hitting heavy tissue and bone to absorb the energy and cause the animal to get knocked down. Like getting hit with a baseball bat. I've hunted in Shotgun only deer. 12 gauge slugs might go 1300 fps and they really don't cause much meat damage, but all the energy of the one OZ + slug getting stopped in 6 inches just cold cocks deer. I think that the massive hit just shuts down their nervous system.

[Qouted by Budlight]"I just don't believe that lung shots are good unless your doing long shots and you require a bigger kill zone."[end qoute]

Ok real question here as to the rational behind that.

Let's strech it a little bit and say the heart lung area is 10 inches high and 14 long. That's a 140 sq inches to hit. Head 4 X 4 inches 16 sq inches. Neck 3 X 14 inches at best 42 sq inches of target at 400 500 yards what is the "bigger kill zone" to shoot at. Is there something wrong with your logic? It's pretty basic sniper action - Man standing at 1000 yards away are you going for a head shot or a chest body shot.

The whole thing I posted above is typical game bullets are made to hold together and even if they double in diameter the hole is still very small. I hunt with a .458 and it's just another whole world of a bigger baseball bat.
.270 Ackley improved 29 inch 1.250 dia. target barrel 7mm STW 28 inch 1.250 target barrel. I also love my .458 mag for varmints and the biggest game in the world.
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Unread 11-11-2004, 02:29 PM
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Thank you for the clarification. No bones were hit in either deer, as my confidence in this new shooter was not high enough to make high neck shots. 1st Deer bullet entrance was the (arm pit) of the right front leg, and hard to find. Exit was just behind left front leg; taking a clean cut of muscle from the left front leg. Deer 2 - Bullet entrance and exit were approximately 5" higher; in & out with no bone or muscle. Fortunately they both went down where they were hit. Still a noticable difference between the SGK and The Corelockt. However, I am not saying in any fashion; that SGK's are not great bullets. They just did not perform to my liking in these situations. They may shoot superbly in another situation. I appreciate your comments, and like everyone else on here; you appear to be quite sharp at this game, and can take some ribbing as well! Thanks for your comments, and Good Shootin' PS: Would appreciate your theory on what the problem may be with my situation. Thanks, Mike

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Unread 11-13-2004, 08:54 AM
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Re: 2 TX Deer with SGK\'s

the reason the 12G slug works so well is because it has a huge crush cavity, doesn't really matter has fast its going when it's almost an inch in diamater. [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

I dont know what bullet your talking about, but we have shot ALOT of deer from 35-180lbs with Matchkings. Ranges have been from 30 to 930yds all in the chest and upwards of 90% have dropped on the spot, with unbelievable tissue damage. Yet that bullet will still penetrate steel pretty well. The reason is that when it strikes something(providing its thick enough) it(usually) tumbles and fragments. Wont do that in steel.

Nighthunter, I really cant tell you what happened without seeing the wound, however if they dropped, I would say nothings wrong. That bullet had to create alot of hydrostatic shock and/or broke the spine(which from your account they didn't) for them to drop. Next time you shoot one really pay attention when you field dress it to the damage done.

If I was able to I would post pics of exit wounds, but I can not. If someone is willing, I can send pictures for you to post.

Oh and yes I can take ribbings very well, I have lot of expierence in eating crow. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Unread 11-29-2004, 11:15 AM
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Thanks for the replies!
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