Last month, a friend and I were out in country that had no trees and the only thing to range was Barley and lava rocks. He had his new Swaro and me my 1200 Leica. I was not able to get any reading past 1215 with my Leica, but he couldn't get anything to read past 1530 with his Swaro. It was bright sunlight and both had a hard time on certain objects and certain angles. However, I had an easier time telling where I was ranging because the aim point is more precise in the Leica.
I do not see how the Swaro can kill the Leica all day long as you mention. Both were good sometimes and both needed help sometimes. The Swaro does have a better image (until you hit the laser button and all the orange crap appears in your view) but the Leica is very good and it costs much less.
If the chip inside the Swaro allows you to go out to 1900 yards, then that is great but my buddies would not go that far-not even when ranging a pine tree covered mountain behing us. We had to break out the WILD for anything over 1500 yards.
I do like that the Swaro is threaded for a tripod. That was a huge oops with the Leica engineers.
I love Swaro (I own thier 80mm spotter and some 10x42 SLC's) but I will not be trading in my Leica for the Swaro rangefinders I'm afraid. I just didn't see enough improvement in them over the Leica to take it in the shorts on a trade-in. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Maybe if we hound them enough they will fix the aiming donut
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Yes, and while we're at it, lets get some lens covers that stay attached to the unit like their binos for crying out loud. I hate having $800 dollar glass just hanging out there unprotected just waiting to get scratched because they didn't want to give us a $15 piece of rubber!
The one i played with had the fitted hard belt case that held it securely -- i'd just keep it there when not in use, cause id get tired of forgetting the rubber caps were on [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
15$, hell more like $1.50 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Could use an eyepiece cover for their spotter too (when in the body) i keep my at80 assembled and have a rigged cover for the ocular lens...guess i'll have to brake down and get a swaro fitted stay on case [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Thanks, that makes me feel better. I also took your advice about how much my 338 should weigh. I was originally going with a 8.5 BAT, Tooley MBR stock with lead added, and a 32" Kreiger, 1.400 at the Muzzel which would have put it at 35lbs. However, I called him back the next day and changed my rifle. I am now going with 10" BAT, Mcmillan 50 HBR with lead added to the rear, and a 36" Lija Barrel 1.750 at the muzzel with muzzel brake. The rifle will come in around 60 to 65 lbs. It's going to be big, but like you said it will be very stable when shooting at 2k. Any suggestions on a rest!!!! I will need to have one made.
"any suggestions on a rest!!!!" GOOD LUCK it took me over a month to design ,have parts fabricated and to assemble the MOAG REST. 90% is one of a kind. send me a couple hundred dollars start money and I'LL build you one by 2007.
p.s. at 65lbs with a brake you might get away with cinder blocks and sand bags for a rest.
I have found some sights that have rests available for a heavy rifle. I was just wondering if anybody knew a specific place to have one built. The sightI found was Coyote Jakes, it looked like they build quality stuff. If anybody knows a better place to have one made please let me know. My rifle will not be ready until March 2006, so I have time to have one built before it gets here. I shouldn't get too much recoil with the brake and the rifle weighing that much. It should shoot pretty smooth. I took the advice from Goodgrouper and went with a heavier rifle, 65lbs. The rifle was originally going to weigh 30 to 35 lbs. Any help would be great! I will be trying to shoot the California ground squirrel at 2k. As everybody knows the ground squirrel is much smaller than a pdog, woodchuck or groundhog, so I have my work cut out for me at this range. I hope someday I will accomplish a kill shot at 2k on a ground squirrel. Goodgrouper has given me the motivation to try and accomplish this. Thanks, Wildcat!