Originally Posted by 5280yotes
Yeah well.. I had family in town and didnt have a lot of free time. Looks like I learned my lesson. This was a gunsmith at gander mountain.
Yeah? A gunsmith at Gander Mountain is like a Pizza Delivery man. Get my point??
Sort of like Cabelas... "We'll mount and boresight your scope for free" They take it in the backroom and screw it on and line the laser boresighter up on the wall. 5 minutes, tops. Never check anything, never properly torque mounts....nothing. They don't even know what threadlocker is and don't have a torque indicating attachment wrench.
You have no idea how many rifles I've found with loose rail to receiver screws, lets just say almost every one......
Just plain stoopid IMO.
Candidly, years and years ago, the first rifle I bought, a Ruger 10-22, I bought at Cabelas when they first opened the store here. It wouldn't shoot for beans and I had 'them' mount a gold ring 3x9. So I go buy the necessary tools and remove the scope (in Leupold Rimgs btw) and the rail is loose as in the mount screws each turned 1/4 turn to torque. No wonder it shot for shitte. The rail was wiggling around.
Thas not to say that it's always the mount, I've seen and experienced receiver to rail threaded mounting holes that were not drilled parallel to the centerline of the receiver, that rifle went back and was replaced by the manufacturer, so it happens.
What I'm saying is when the pizza delivery man mounts the scope, thats all he does, nothing more because he lacks the skill to do better.
You can take my comments any way you want. It's your issue, not mine. Next time, give the "gunsmith" a ball pein hammer and let him align the optic with that or take it to a real gunsmith and pay to have it done correctly. Better yet, obtain the knowledge and do it yourself and do it right.
People dance around the obvious without ever looking at what the actual cause is. 'Warped barrel'.... maybe, if you didn't follow the proper break in and pounded multiple shots through it and got it overheated, can happen. Again, entirely your fault.
Go back to square one and check the mount, the mount screws, make sure the rings have a concentric bore and lap if necessary (I lap every new set, it's not hard to do, takes 5 minutes and you can buy the lap bars and compound online, I just happen to own a machine shop so I make my own), use threadlocker and torque properly and in a patteren, usually diagonally. that is, if the tube isn't dented already......
My other issue concerning the pizza delivery man boresight bs is eye releif. How can a stranger set your eye box at maximum magnification? No 2 shooters shoulder a rifle the same. Length of pull varies between individuals, like fingerprints, there is no 'usual'.
Finally, were the scope cross hairs the horizontal hair, cenetered and levelled on the receiver? Bet not and that alone will cause a deviation that increases as the shot distance increases because the scope is 'canted' in the mount. Short shots, no issue, long shots, big issue, one reason I have a scope level on every longer range rifle I own, just to be sure I'm shouldering the rifle in the same plane as the cross hairs are in.
I would never intrust mounting of an expensive optic to a pizza delivery man, part time gunsmith.
You wanted spanked, I spanked ya......