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Unread 08-25-2009, 10:32 AM
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Re: 1000+ yard deer hunting

Tank,

No flame intended here. But 1000 ftlbs KE is a VERY subjective requirement for killing deer. Does that apply to a 300 lb Idaho mullie buck as well a s 70 lb Texas whitetail doe? IME, KE is not a very good indicator of killing effectiveness. Bullet design and construction and subsequent terminal performance are what one needs to know. KE doesn't mean diddly to me... I dont even look at it when I run ballistics. I look at bullet design, construction and velocity.

Your 28" 7mm RM is a little longer than a "normal" hunting rig and the velocity of 1756 @ 1000 yds is very marginal for the Berger VLD which advertises an expasion velocity of 1800 fps. It would at least likely produce an exit hole if it didn't expand, but it would produce very little permanant wound channel and little to no blood trail. I would probably be willing to experimment on antelope doe's for terminal performance because they are very delicate and easy to kill creatures.

IMO, for 1000 yd game killing, a substantial cartridge is best.

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    Re: 1000+ yard deer hunting

    Not sure where to origianl poster lives and is going to hunt, but if you take into account elevation, higher than 1000ft of elevation is going to improve the outcome of the bullet performance. I know that when hunting Mullies the elevation is usually greater than the fine moutains of PA which are generally around 950 to 1500 ft. I would not be afraid with some practice with this caliber to attempt a shot on a whitetail.

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    P.S. I have come to respect you and your opinion, so no fire being flamed.
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    Re: 1000+ yard deer hunting

    I agree with liltank a 7mm mag will deliver the goods at 1000 yds. Running my load of 168 berger (BC G7 0.316) at 3080 fps at 2500 ft with std atmospherics gets the berger to 1000 yds with 1821fps 1237ft-lbs. That should be enough for any deer, maybe not an elk.

    The round is ballistically capable of doing it, it is then up to the rifle and shooter to deliver it accurately.

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    Re: 1000+ yard deer hunting

    Grey Bull custom rifles don't chamber anything bigger than 7mmRM for this very purpose. Just thougth I would throw that out there.

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    Re: 1000+ yard deer hunting

    I know a guy who dropped a BULL not an elk an actual BULL at around 250 yrds I know not 1000 yrds (but) he did this with a 22-250 50 grain hornady soft point bullet. just thought I would share that true story with you guys. Now for my .02 on 1000 yrd deere rifle I believe a 300 rum would be the all around best choice you could kill white tails as far as you could actually hit them and with a 210 grain berger I wouldn't doubt hesitate shooting a bull elk at 1000 yrds . If I'm not mistaken you can watch an elk shot on one of the videos on this site were a guy uses I believe a 6.5 caliber to take an elk at 1000 yrds or around that distance.Lastly, you could buy the 300 rum shoot white tails out to 1000 yrds until you shoot the barrel out and then rechamber it for the big daddy .338 edge

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    Re: 1000+ yard deer hunting

    Hey guys, been a long day here. I've had a family emergency so may not be replying to your posts real soon.

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    Re: 1000+ yard deer hunting

    I wouldn't hesitate to wack any big buck that walked out to 1K with a 7 RM.

    Several bullets that could work, 140-150g nbt's, 154-162g sst's, 160g ab, 162g amax, 168g and 180g vld, 175g smk. Any accurate, quick expanding bullet will work on deer, they aren't the hardest animals in the world to kill, especially when they dont even know there being shot at...

    My longest deer kill ever actually is with my 7 RM, was couple years ago and was right at 800. Hit him behind the shoulders with a 162g amax at 2900fps and he went a little ways and bedded down and was done for. The bullet hit a rib going in and blew up and DID NOT exit. Found pieces of bullet was all.

    I was aiming for the shoulder, but the wind pushed the bullet a few more inches then I had anticipated, probly a good thing.

    Anyways, I am not using AMAX's anymore for deer as they are more like a varmint bullet IMO. They just make a mess of things and dont penetrate for crap.

    Definately not my 1st and only choice for deer out to 1K with a 7 mag thats for sure.
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