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Old 06-06-2013, 07:37 PM
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Re: stw build

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Yeah guys aftermarket action seems a better way to go. So from im getting from the action jason used the internal mag box is 3.9. Im trying to get as much info as possible. Obviously this is my first build and i want it to be right and most importantly worth my money.

7stw you said look towards brux barrels. Are there any other barrel manufacturers i should look at? Any of them come with accuracy guarantee? I would try to research all this stuff for myself and not waste your guys time but im a commercial fishermen so i really dont get a lot of free time.
Brush, at one time in my life, I too was into commercial fishing. We did bluefin tuna in the spring and summer, and cod and shrimp in the winter. My hat is off to you now with all the regulations, and quota cuts.
Anywho, as far as the guarantee on the accuracy, that will be hard to regulate as the variables are huge. Different reamers, and skill levels are part of that equation, so the manufactors really can't warrant the accuracy. But word of mouth, and reputations will get you into a good barrel. My latest is the Brux, but have had incredible accuracy with Schneider, as well as Hart too. Broughton, Lilja, and Kreiger ALL make great barrels. My feeling is that if you buy one of the above mentioned barrels, and have it installed by a QUALITY gunsmith, you will enjoy great accuracy.
The processes, and QC at those makers nowadays is really tight. Most are air gauged, and hand lapped. You can almost spin the bottle, without going wrong. I'm just very impressed with the Brux. It broke in in very short order, shoots like a house on fire, and cleans like a dream. Just my 2 cents! Take care, and good luck fishing!
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Old 06-08-2013, 04:08 PM
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Re: stw build

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Brushunter -

This is rifle is the first time I've used a custom action - and for design reasons I moved towards the shilen. 1. I wanted a BDL format and the ability to have a repeater when hunting. This meant that if I used a Savage or Rem700 action I would have to have a smith open up the mag box and mess with the bolt release. This was not a problem with the shile at 3.950" for mag opening and side bolt release. 2. I have used Shilen barrels before and like them. The also make their own trigger, which I opted for based on reputation alone. 3. If I went all 'Shilen' then they could deliver a barrel action to my specs. All told the cost was right at $1600. Steep, but not crazy.

This left me a stock to buy (easy with Rem700 clone) on ebay, internal mag box from Wyatt, follower and spring, and bottom metal and screws. Finally, I needed a base to fit the Shilen action, which they sell. (Rem700 base doesn't fit.). I haven't added everything up, but probably no more than $2200 for a pretty near custom rifle. Custom includes throating chamber to dummies I sent Shilen.

So the question becomes, if you want to use a donor rem700 and not change out stock and trigger, then you will easily come in under $2200, but if you upgrade to a jewell trigger and an equivalent HS precision stock, then ... If you want a repeater that can handle over 3.6+" (I'm not sure what the max is for rem700), then you will be close to the $2000 mark.

You might be interested in a LongRange Rifles special truing, barreling offer going on:
LongRifles, Inc. Spring 2013 Remington M700 Accurizing Group Buy!

This is a group buy over at SnipersHide. The smith, Chad Dixon, has set up his shop to run high throughput CNC Rem700 truing and barrel fitting. The prices look insanely good. I have never worked with him, but am considering sending my one and only Rem700 for this service.

Sorry about the long email, but I am just trying to give you some insight into my thought process incase is helps.

I took my new Shilen based 7mm stw out today: I've updated on my Shilen/7mm stw thread.

That wasnt a long reply at all. That was very good info. Gave me a good idea about the custom route and all the parts and problems i might run into. Im pretty sure your right on with the rem 700 length mag well. Yeah i for sure want a repeater cause i will be hunting with this rifle. Thanks for the info help a lot and the link ill check it out.
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Old 06-08-2013, 04:26 PM
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Re: stw build

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Brush, at one time in my life, I too was into commercial fishing. We did bluefin tuna in the spring and summer, and cod and shrimp in the winter. My hat is off to you now with all the regulations, and quota cuts.
Anywho, as far as the guarantee on the accuracy, that will be hard to regulate as the variables are huge. Different reamers, and skill levels are part of that equation, so the manufactors really can't warrant the accuracy. But word of mouth, and reputations will get you into a good barrel. My latest is the Brux, but have had incredible accuracy with Schneider, as well as Hart too. Broughton, Lilja, and Kreiger ALL make great barrels. My feeling is that if you buy one of the above mentioned barrels, and have it installed by a QUALITY gunsmith, you will enjoy great accuracy.
The processes, and QC at those makers nowadays is really tight. Most are air gauged, and hand lapped. You can almost spin the bottle, without going wrong. I'm just very impressed with the Brux. It broke in in very short order, shoots like a house on fire, and cleans like a dream. Just my 2 cents! Take care, and good luck fishing!
Always nice to meet a fellow fishermen. Man dont even get me started lol. Yeah stuff has really gone hill since i started fishing. We crab in the winter, shrimp or drag spring and summer, and also have a mid water permit for hake. Dragging has gone to ifq's with 100% observer coverage. 99% of them are fresh out of college and have to do it to continue there biology carrer. We pretty much teach them more than the schools do in two years lol. Actually just got in freaking gal force cut the trip short.

But any who that brux sounds like its doing really good for you. Ill have to look up those othere barrel manufacturers and check them out. Ive heard hart and kreiger before. sounds like a good list. The fact that u say u cant really go wrong with the list above gives me confidence that they are the best in the business at what they do and must be popular manufacturers. Thanks for the info
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Old 06-09-2013, 05:37 PM
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Re: stw build

I'd be more than happy help you out with the build if you like. I've done 9 STW's in the last 3 months ranging from weatherby, Remingtion, Winchester, and two Stiler actions. All have their plus and minus' as far base actions. Everyone is giving you great advice with everything so far. Talk to your gunsmith and see what he has to say on what he can and what he wants to do with it. Personally I'm running a Krieger 1:9 5R 29" barrel, #15 Heavy Palma contour. I love the barrel. I have had 1 krieger out of 20 that wouldn't shoot and every barrel maker has those, but every cheap maker has a barrel that will shoot lights out too. Really what you're paying for with a highend barrel is better quality control so the odds of you getting a barrel that will shoot acceptably is greater. I've been doing a lot of Hart barrels lately and they're ok, not my favorite. They all shoot well, for short periods of time, the design of their rifle cuts seem to foul up and start to open up groups after 5-7 rds from my experience. Maybe they get better with time but I've haven't held on to one for more than 50-60rds to find out.

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Old 06-10-2013, 11:27 PM
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Thanks sfr. You will be hearing form me soon
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