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Old 09-16-2013, 09:50 AM
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Re: Looking to go 7 STW

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Allan Rovig built my 7mm STW. 180 VLD is going 3189 fps.

Here is a 3 shot group at 681 yards. I love this gun.

That's a pretty nice group at that distance!
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Old 09-25-2013, 11:08 AM
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Re: Looking to go 7 STW

Okay, so I have decided that I am going to join the brotherhood once I shoot the barrel out on my 7 RM.

All of my guns are factory, and I have never ordered a barrel before. I do not know anything about the tapers, or contours, of the barrels that are offered by aftermarket manufacturers.

What is the best way to figure all of this stuff out? I have a gun smith in mind that I would like to use when the time comes. Do I just simply have a conversation with him and have him help me figure out what I want? I know he has been very helpful in the past.

I know that I want to shoot the heavier bullets, so I will likely go with a 1:8.5 twist rate (anticipating the Berger 195's), but I am thinking that this twist rate will be fine for the 180 VLD's and Hybrids. I will likely go with a 28" barrel length to help burn the slower burning powders that will likely be used as well.

I excited about the idea of the project, but I am also a little apprehensive as it is something new for me (about the barrel, not the caliber, I'm positive about the STW ).

What are your thoughts and suggestions?
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Old 09-25-2013, 11:41 AM
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I would have a talk with your smith, and ask him all the same questions till you feel comfortable. It's nothing to be nervous about, unless your not comfortable with your smith. Iin which case, I'd find another smith.

There's a select few people I'll let touch my guns, and my smith is one of them, I trust him completely, and he does what I ask for my rifles, and rarely tries to talk me out of an idea, unless he knows it's not a good idea. He's been around a LONG time, so if he says he wouldn't do it and explains why he wouldn't do it, then I know it's not a good idea, or worth the extra money it would cost to do it.

As for barrels.....My smith once told me, "It's not about who built the barrel...It's about who's doing the work..." And I can believe that, because he's built me rifles with trued factory barrels that would shoot 1 hole groups @ 100 yards. So, his theory about the smith's work is more important than the barrel brand, holds true in my experience.

You can go with a Douglas, Shilen, Krieger, Mike Rock (Rock Creek), Obermeyer, Brux, Braughton, Muller, or whoever, but the gun will only be as accurate as the smith builds it to be.
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The 284 is to the STW what a tricycle is to a Ninja.
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:36 PM
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I would have a talk with your smith, and ask him all the same questions till you feel comfortable. It's nothing to be nervous about, unless your not comfortable with your smith. Iin which case, I'd find another smith.

There's a select few people I'll let touch my guns, and my smith is one of them, I trust him completely, and he does what I ask for my rifles, and rarely tries to talk me out of an idea, unless he knows it's not a good idea. He's been around a LONG time, so if he says he wouldn't do it and explains why he wouldn't do it, then I know it's not a good idea, or worth the extra money it would cost to do it.

As for barrels.....My smith once told me, "It's not about who built the barrel...It's about who's doing the work..." And I can believe that, because he's built me rifles with trued factory barrels that would shoot 1 hole groups @ 100 yards. So, his theory about the smith's work is more important than the barrel brand, holds true in my experience.

You can go with a Douglas, Shilen, Krieger, Mike Rock (Rock Creek), Obermeyer, Brux, Braughton, Muller, or whoever, but the gun will only be as accurate as the smith builds it to be.
Don't leave Schneider off your list. Douglas is one I'd take off. I've seen way too many people have trouble with their barrels of the last few years but the rest you have listed there are top notch. Pick any one of them and then it's just a matter of having the right guy do the work.
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:48 PM
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Re: Looking to go 7 STW

I've never had problems with Douglas barrels in the past...They're about the only manufacturer that will actually warranty their barrels for life from mfg defects. If you buy their Premium Air-Gauged blanks you shouldn't have a problem. They're hand selected and air-gauged to .0001" in straightness. I have no problems using a Douglas Air-Guaged blank, personally. My smith is old school and swears by them. He's worked and installed every brand of barrel known to man, and he still swears by the old Douglas 5-groove barrels. I'm sure there's bound to be a few lemons leaking out there somewhere. With everything man-made, there's bound to be some lemons out lurking out there.

But, if I get a few good checks between now and the time I order my blank for my .280 AI, I'll probably go with a stainless fluted Rock Creek 5R, just because I've never owned one, and heard so much about them.

I also forgot McGowan on that list, too.
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:27 PM
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Re: Looking to go 7 STW

Hart is another one
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:31 PM
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Hart is another one
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