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7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

 
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:18 AM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

Thanks, my STW has a Stiller Predator action. I'm beginning to understand why Jerry Stiller is so popular right now. His custom actions are less expensive than others too. They are being used in 1000 yard benchrest guns pretty regularly, over taking Remington 700's and now having their place next to Bat's and Surgeons it seems.

I'll remember that gunsmith's name, post his website or telephone number if you have it.

Can't wait to see the build, I've got an old gunsmith who sent me a picture of an FN commercial made model 1950 mauser action that he installed a Gentry safety on (caliber 300 Norma) with scrolling and a beautiful wood stock. One of his own guns! The safety looked beautiful too, I spoke with him and he explained what a brilliant and safe, safety system it was.
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gentry safety on mauser.
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This is what I'm getting from my factory Rem 700 STW so far. The idea was to get a Rem, a good scope and stock then see what I had before moving on to the barrel/action stuff. This is all at 100 yards. It looks to my untrained eye that this rifle likes bullets on or right off the lands unless it's RL22 and then it doesn't like that powder at all. One thing I noticed with the RL22, the barrel got hotter than heck with 3 shots. Hot enough I could only hold it for about 3 seconds.
The action is skim bedded on .030 pillars in a greybull stock, greybull scope, shooting in a sled. The high low flyers concern me. Could the sled be causing that? Powder is measured to a single particle, seating depth won't change unless the contact point of the bullet is different.

the center target has staple holes, left center and right.
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

WapitiBob,

You may want to try some IMR-7828 at the top with those 140 BT or even better yet the 140 TTSX Barnes in the area of w/OAL 3.667. Some 7STW's factory guns like this load...alot.
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Wapitibob, don't give up on it! It is talking to you, but you have to translate it. IMHO, the RL25 is too slow for the 140 bullet. I have by far had far more luck with RL22,or 7828 with 140-145-150 bullets. And oh yeah, barrels do get warm quick with 22, especially this time of year. If I had to seltle on one powder, it would probably be RL22. I have shot all bullet weights with it, but it really shines with the bullet weight you are shooting now. And as was said by another, 7828 is a great choice too. You could be onto some thing with the lead sled thing! It does change the harmonics, versus when the gun is shouldered, or bagged. Save the RL 25 for the heavy weights would be my recommendation. I would like to recommend the 140 TSX. My Sako absoleutely loves those things. My #1 sendero STW loves 140 CT bullets. FWIW, my all time favorite 140 load is, 79.3-RL22-140 CT, BT, TSX. Federal 215, @ 3.670 for Remingtons, and 3.701 for Sako. You can duplicate that load with 7828. The latter, is a tad slower, but it has worked for me. Good luck, and feel free to ask for advice.
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This is what I'm getting from my factory Rem 700 STW so far. The idea was to get a Rem, a good scope and stock then see what I had before moving on to the barrel/action stuff. This is all at 100 yards. It looks to my untrained eye that this rifle likes bullets on or right off the lands unless it's RL22 and then it doesn't like that powder at all. One thing I noticed with the RL22, the barrel got hotter than heck with 3 shots. Hot enough I could only hold it for about 3 seconds.
The action is skim bedded on .030 pillars in a greybull stock, greybull scope, shooting in a sled. The high low flyers concern me. Could the sled be causing that? Powder is measured to a single particle, seating depth won't change unless the contact point of the bullet is different.

the center target has staple holes, left center and right.
P/S, in addition to my other post, what contour is your barrel? Also, maybe try 3 shot groups. That's all I use on magnum testing. Take care.
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gentry safety on mauser.
Man, is that thing BEAUTIFUL. I would be afraid to shoot it. Nice caliber too!!!
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