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7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

 
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:18 PM
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Is a carbon wrapped barrel lighter? I watched the video, and it's hard to say.
Yes, significantly lighter, and a good carbon-wrapped barrel will have significantly better heat dissipation than a steel barrel.
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If your Sendero was made in '97 or '98 like mine were the twist rate of the barrel on your Sendero SF 7mm STW is 9 1/4.
That's affirmative! What he said.
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Anybody in my STW brotherhood got any help for me? I got 60-something views, but responses so far. I really could use some help, and I'd like to load some up tonight if anyone can help me out...

Also, I need to know what my rate of twist is my stock Sendero SF 7STW? I know that I should know this, but for some reason I'm drawing a blank... I know it should be around the 1:11-something range, but I got nothing...

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Hey Mud, as to your twist rate, I'm almost 100 % sure you have a 1 in 9 1/4 twist. That will stabilize the bullets you are wanting to shoot. Our resident heavy for caliber " Guru" and loyal STW nut, " Dano" might shine some light as to loading recommendations for the heavyweights. He has them down to a science. The heaviest I have fooled with are the 168's. That's really not heavy. But at least you know you have enough twist to accommodate the bigger bullets. Hang with it there Bro' she will come around.
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Is a carbon wrapped barrel lighter? I watched the video, and it's hard to say.
Ed, yeah, they are significantly lighter, but there claim to fame is that they cool quicker. They have the same mass as a bull barrel, but are no heavier then a standard barrel. Actually, I think the core is smaller then a featherweight barrel. I don't think they really caught on. I don't hear that much about them.
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Hey Mud, as to your twist rate, I'm almost 100 % sure you have a 1 in 9 1/4 twist. That will stabilize the bullets you are wanting to shoot. Our resident heavy for caliber " Guru" and loyal STW nut, " Dano" might shine some light as to loading recommendations for the heavyweights. He has them down to a science. The heaviest I have fooled with are the 168's. That's really not heavy. But at least you know you have enough twist to accommodate the bigger bullets. Hang with it there Bro' she will come around.
SWEET! 9.25 twist works for me. Good to know I can stabilize the big boys. I bet the STW is gonna be one heavy hittin SOB with those 180's! They say they gave a 0.659 BC, which means they're gonna hit it like a caveman!

I bought a new thing my local store got in by Bullet Proof, called "12 Load Development Samples". It comes with 12 bullets of your choice for $10.00.

Seems kind of high, BUT who wants to buy a whole box for $55.00, then be stuck with 85-90 bullets you'll never use? So, I figured for $10.00 it'll be worth the try.


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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

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SWEET! 9.25 twist works for me. Good to know I can stabilize the big boys. I bet the STW is gonna be one heavy hittin SOB with those 180's! They say they gave a 0.659 BC, which means they're gonna hit it like a caveman!

I bought a new thing my local store got in by Bullet Proof, called "12 Load Development Samples". It comes with 12 bullets of your choice for $10.00.

Seems kind of high, BUT who wants to buy a whole box for $55.00, then be stuck with 85-90 bullets you'll never use? So, I figured for $10.00 it'll be worth the try.


Those 180g VLDs are awesome bullets. I fell in love with them when I saw them.

My load is 79g of Retumbo and it shoots about 1/2 MOA at 100yds. One thing I did notice about this bullet in my rifle is that I does not like to be jumped. (At least in my rifle) I seat them almost to the lands, but just long enough that I can remove a loaded bullet with out having to pull my bolt. This means that this is a single shot proposition for my rifle.

I decided that I would develop a second "heavy for caliber" load using a 175g Sierra Gameking. This bullet is actually more accurate in my rifle shooting a 1 hole group about .304" with a 77g load of Retumbo seated to fit into my magazine. It's not as fast as the Berger load, but It's extremely accurate. I wanted to be able to shoot my rifle as a repeater in some situations.

Hopefully I'll have the chance this spring to shoot the Bergers at 1000yds and I'll report back when I do.

I'm really excited about Noslers annoucement of the 168g and 175g Long Range Accubonds. They have a listed BC of .652 and .672 respectively. The 6.72 is a higher BC than the Berger. Looks like a great bullet and can be seated to magazine length .

A 1-9.25 Twist should be able to shoot all bullets discussed, but it remains to be seen what your individual rifle will like.

As an alternative to Retumbo you can try:

(As per Quickload)

RL-25 with a Max load of 73g
or H1000 with a Max load of 76g

Hope this helps,

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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

I have some H1000 handy, and tons of RL19 & RL22 on-hand...

I have sent Berger an email asking if the Alliant powders will work, and if so, what their recommendation is for a starting load.

So would you recommend starting @ 76.0 of H1000 or start lower?

I have been told you are the Isaac Newton of the heavy STW's, and that you have it down to a science. So, any help will be appreciated.
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