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7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

 
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:17 PM
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Dano, BTW, the action I am using is from a 670, 30-06. I bought it for 349.00. This gun I believe was a closet queen.
My first 280 was a 22 inch barrel, and I always wished it was 24. My uncle built one from a 721 Remington action, that thing is awesome. I wouldn't have a problem going 26, or maybe even 25. The rifle has a blind magazine, and I may let it stay a blind magazine. They are stiffer at least.
But yeah, I know what you are saying about the off hand shots. There are two long action , non magnum cartridges that really are the cream of the crop, and that would be a 25-06, and a 280. I now have a 25-06, with a lifpttle coaching from " the Bean", and I love it. Now I'm going to build this 280' and just want to make the right decisions. Once it's cut, well, that's what you get! Thanks buddy!

Bob.
Nothing wrong with a 670, just like a post 64 mo 70, just a little more nuts and bolts. They do have ugly stocks so that would have to go.

My good friend and gunsmith hunts with a .280 Rem, He built his completely off of an Argentine Mauser 98, Built the rings and every thing. It's a beautiful rifle. He just loves that cartridge and has taken deer to elk and caribou with it. It's truely a great round. His has a 24" bbl.

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Old 12-28-2012, 06:20 PM
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STW guys or we may lose our following. If 7mm bullets go to 195 grains should we be ordering 1x8.5 barrels?
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:40 PM
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Nothing wrong with a 670, just like a post 64 mo 70, just a little more nuts and bolts. They do have ugly stocks so that would have to go.

My good friend and gunsmith hunts with a .280 Rem, He built his completely off of an Argentine Mauser 98, Built the rings and every thing. It's a beautiful rifle. He just loves that cartridge and has taken deer to elk and caribou with it. It's truely a great round. His has a 24" bbl.

Dan
Yup, that stock is fugly for sure, but at the heart is the action. What years did they nke those. I remember them quite a few years ago. They are sort of a ADL Remington . Plain Jane , but functional. The stock is being exported to North Carolina.
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:43 PM
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STW guys or we may lose our following. If 7mm bullets go to 195 grains should we be ordering 1x8.5 barrels?
Why not! I'm the one here promoting heavy for caliber bullets, If I rebarrel or build another 7stw, I'd get a faster twist, mine has a 1-9" but I'd love to try the 195s.

I also have been thinking of an Improved version with a 40 degree shoulder, I know it's a touchy thing wanting to mess with the perfect case, but why not??? Be something to kick around.... especially if one could get their hands on some RWS or Norma .300 H&H brass, would be a perfect way to form them up.

Dan

Oh yeah, sorry for going off the main path, kinda easy thing to do....... I'll try to keep it on the 7stw.... ;)
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I was hoping someone could help me, i have a 7mm stw sendero it is a 26" barrel.
can someone tell me please what load i can start on with 162gr a-max bullets. The barrel has a very long freebore so i cant get the bullet to the lands.The other big problem is only somchem powders is available and i think S365 is the right powder.but somehow quickload does not work with my 7stw, for instance i get 3163,3166,3169 ft/sec with 73.2gr s365 powder. the water capacity for my cases is 99.7 gr.
what would you suggest i start the seating depth.

TMOS
I've found that A maxs usally like just touching or 5 thou off the lands, your fps sounds about right and if it is accurate I would not change a thing.
I'm not familar with your rifle powders but I've found ADI 2225/Retumbo worked well with my 7mm STW with 162gn A maxs and if you can find a powder with an equvilant burn rate you may get up to the low 3200fps max?
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STW guys or we may lose our following. If 7mm bullets go to 195 grains should we be ordering 1x8.5 barrels?
Yup, Ed, you are right, and I apologize for ramblin' about " other stuff" , but I value opines here in the hood, even if the subject isn't STW related.
As far as the 8.5 twist, I thing that is realistic. I don't know what weight the 1-9 twist will stabilize to, but I so think that 195 is out of it's range. That thing must be 2 inches long.
P/S, did you get much snow Thursday? Take care, and Happy New year.
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I was hoping someone could help me, i have a 7mm stw sendero it is a 26" barrel.
can someone tell me please what load i can start on with 162gr a-max bullets. The barrel has a very long freebore so i cant get the bullet to the lands.The other big problem is only somchem powders is available and i think S365 is the right powder.but somehow quickload does not work with my 7stw, for instance i get 3163,3166,3169 ft/sec with 73.2gr s365 powder. the water capacity for my cases is 99.7 gr.
what would you suggest i start the seating depth.

TMOS
TMOS, I really like the 162 A Max. I don't know how to compare the SOCHEM powders to the powders we use here the US. I have used RL22 with that bullet, and others, and got just short of 3200 fps. I believe my charge was about 75.5 to 76.0 using the rl22. If you have a conversion to powders used here, that may help you figure it out. I do feel that you do not have to use the slowest burning powder around to get the 162's to shoot. Awesome combination, 162 AMax, sendero, and 7 STW. Bad Hombre!!!!
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