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7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

 
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:40 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

Hey 7STW and Fred Ea.......I know better than anyone that you get what you pay for in optics, with that being said I had a chance to buy an Osprey 10x40 x50 at cost from a friend of mine who owns a gun store,I knew better than to do it but i didnt have the ability.......(I can see you guys shaking your head in disaproval)....I was suprised how clear it was......its no Leupold mind you but for the money its not bad ........I put it on my 22-250(no taper Hart tube,Canjar trigger,bedded) shot tru the box at 100 yrds and it did really well,No come up lines on the elevation turrent but hey for under 200 what can you expect, anyway just thought I'd See what you had to say ButterBean
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:24 PM
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Hey 7STW and Fred Ea.......I know better than anyone that you get what you pay for in optics, with that being said I had a chance to buy an Osprey 10x40 x50 at cost from a friend of mine who owns a gun store,I knew better than to do it but i didnt have the ability.......(I can see you guys shaking your head in disaproval)....I was suprised how clear it was......its no Leupold mind you but for the money its not bad ........I put it on my 22-250(no taper Hart tube,Canjar trigger,bedded) shot tru the box at 100 yrds and it did really well,No come up lines on the elevation turrent but hey for under 200 what can you expect, anyway just thought I'd See what you had to say ButterBean
Yea, that's right, what the he'll are you thinking. , but, been there done that. I have a "similar" scope that I use for swapping around when I want to check something, but it is not my primary scope. One of the guys at my club has one on his 700 P, .308. It was a set it, and forget it situation. I looked through it when he got it, and overall, was impressed. The price will make you look, and you might even carry it home with you, but you know that someday you will upgrade. I have put " cheap" scopes on rifles, just to get something to shoot, knowing that it was temporary. We won't razz you too bad if you do that, will we Fred? Nah' not TOOOOOOO much.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:29 PM
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Yea, that's right, what the he'll are you thinking. , but, been there done that. I have a "similar" scope that I use for swapping around when I want to check something, but it is not my primary scope. One of the guys at my club has one on his 700 P, .308. It was a set it, and forget it situation. I looked through it when he got it, and overall, was impressed. The price will make you look, and you might even carry it home with you, but you know that someday you will upgrade. I have put " cheap" scopes on rifles, just to get something to shoot, knowing that it was temporary. We won't razz you too bad if you do that, will we Fred? Nah' not TOOOOOOO much.
Its temporary.....got more in that rifle than anything I own.........I'll pass it on to someone that really needs it
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:03 AM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

Butter bean,
What is an Osprey? I've never heard of it, it is one of those foreign jobs swarming the market now? I learned my lesson with the cheap ones years ago, could have bought a shonuff good scope with the money I spent on cheap ones years before, but if it is clear and holds on target good, it don't matter. The next thing is that you will have in the back of your mind is that they cut a corner somewhere to sell it so cheap and when is it going to let you down, hopefully not on a 150 inch 10 point.
I can't hack on you too bad though, a few years back a friend of mine got me a 3x9x50 Nikon Buckmasters brand new so cheap I couldn't let it go, I bought it and it was super clear but it wouldn't focus right. I thought it was me so I got my friends and brother to look through it and they said they same thing, it wouldn't adjust to be clear for any one. I bought it and knew better when I bought it.
There are many good scopes out there, not just Leupold's I just happen to prefer them. One of my hunting partners thinks Leupold's are junk, can't stand them, says they are not clear. He thinks the more it cost, the better the scope. It is just like anything out there, you can spend whatever you want on them, it's just what you prefer, not me. My gunsmith says the newer Leupold's are junk also, so what you to do about that.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:12 AM
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Butter bean,
Just thought of what my gunsmith told me years ago about scopes. It is like motor oil in your engine, you use premium motor oil and don't put anything in your radiator and the engine will go out quick, you buy a good rifle and put a 79.95 scope on it, doesn't make much sense, your scope is just as important as your rifle as anti/ coolant is just as important as good motor oil to a engine. It makes sense to me. Most of your novice hunters/shooters in the south do that very thing, I know because I did it also.
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CASE LIFE??? Hey guys, I spent ALL day going through brass, on Sunday. I sorted, cleaned, trimmed and chamfered almost all of my brass from 22-250 through 300 ultra mag, and everything in between. Then, I found a batch of STW brass that I had shot awhile back, that I know has at least eight firings on it. Primer pockets are tight, necks still " snap" when they come out of the expander ball. That brass is Winchester brass that I bought as factory ammo at wal- mart back in 1997 ish. I have another lot of 8 mm brass that was resized that I have about five firings on now, and it still shoots well. But, I hav a box of A- Square brass, that is headstamped the same, that has about three, maybe four firings on it, and the necks are mushy, very inconsistent tension. I don't know who makes there own headstamped brass. The brass that I have that has exhibited good. To excellent life is the stuff that was made in the late ninetys. What are you guys seeing on the new brass that some of you all bought? One of the boxes of A- Square brass, is actually Remington brass. Because of the new build, i may be looking for about 60-80 pieces of brass. Let me know what you think of the quality. I should have gotten in on that group buy awhile back. Thanks Brothers!

P/ S, this Sako has taken a liking to 140 TSX bullets over 79.5- RL22, 215 fed. @ 3.704 OAL. I tried it with 80 grains, and got 3411 ave. No pressure signs. I backed it off .5 grain just as a safety buffer for temp changes. The TSX bullet is one bullet that I did not try when I first got this gun. I may stick with this load as my standard load. It groups better at 200 than it does at 100 yds. That is a good sign. And I am sure that the speed is STILL, 3350 or better. Remember, Speed is Cool, but Accuracy is Absolute!.....
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:46 AM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

Guy's, anyone have any good load data for the 160 grain flat based TSX Barnes bullets, or want to share their experience with shooting them in their STWs. I have been trying the 162 A-Maxs. Best groups so far have been 77.6 grains of H-1000. Someone told me that shooting 140s would be a lot harder on your barrel life than the heavier bullets. Anything to that? Thanks
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