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7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

 
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:08 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

When I first got my 7STW,I began trying different powders and bullets working up loads for it.I was getting great accuracy,but I was not getting the velocities I knew it was capable of.The guy I bought my 7STW from gave me a box of factory Winchester Power Point 150gr ammo,so just for the heck of it,I shot a round over the chronograph.It read 3450fps for that 150gr factory round!Now that's what I was hoping for.I pulled the bullet out of one of the factory rounds,weighed the powder,80.0grs.I did a little research and found Winchester was using WXR powder.I went down to the local gun shop and bought a pound to try it out to see if I could duplicate that load.It did.I use that load for my bullets 139-150grs.It's close to max load for the 150gr bullets in my rifle.I dropped down to 77.0grs for 154-160gr bullets,getting 3300fps with the 154gr and 3200fps with the 160gr.WXR is a discontinued powder.I bought quite a bit of it while I still could.From what I researched,it is the same powder as Reloader-22 and they were lots of Norma MRP that didn't meet the specs.I was only getting 15fps less velocity with Reloader-22 than I was getting from WXR and the powders grouped the same,so I guess it may be so.
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:34 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

Butter bean,
SWEET rig, that is a keeper if it shoots that good and the model 70 is a fine action. I dare to say that my m70's have a tad smoother action and a better trigger than my Rem. 700's and I like the 3 position safety better because it locks the bolt and blocks the firing pin.
You can't beat a Leupold at that price, to me, they are the best all around scope for the money, own ten and have had no problems in 25 years so far.
FE
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:52 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

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Butter bean,
SWEET rig, that is a keeper if it shoots that good and the model 70 is a fine action. I dare to say that my m70's have a tad smoother action and a better trigger than my Rem. 700's and I like the 3 position safety better because it locks the bolt and blocks the firing pin.
You can't beat a Leupold at that price, to me, they are the best all around scope for the money, own ten and have had no problems in 25 years so far.
FE
Fred,I also like that you ncan take the bolt a part with no tools on the Winchester........Ive got a couple other brands of scopes and they are fine and I wouldnt be afraid to take them anywhere.........But they aint a leupold.......Thanks to you and 7STW for all the info
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:13 PM
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Butter bean,
The model 70 is probably the most under appreciated rifle since it got a bad rap when it changed things after 1964. Down here in the south, it is like a disease, no one wants them and they are scarce, but I happen to like them very well and my gunsmith likes them too. A friend of mine had a m70 express in 7stw and I liked it better than my Rem. 700, he was going to sell it to me, but it got stolen. I haven't seen one since.
There is a lot of good scopes out there now because they have to be good or no one will buy even one. A co-worker of mine has 3 Nikon Prostaff's and they are as clear as the Leupold's I own and were a good bit cheaper, I am just partial to the Leupold vari-x 2 and 3's with 50mm lens. I used to pick them up at gun shows a lot cheaper than new ones, but here recently, they are selling very well and you can't find any for sale much anymore at a bargain. You did very well with your buy, saw 2 a few weeks ago and they were asking 300 for them.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:23 PM
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Butter bean,
The model 70 is probably the most under appreciated rifle since it got a bad rap when it changed things after 1964. Down here in the south, it is like a disease, no one wants them and they are scarce, but I happen to like them very well and my gunsmith likes them too. A friend of mine had a m70 express in 7stw and I liked it better than my Rem. 700, he was going to sell it to me, but it got stolen. I haven't seen one since.
There is a lot of good scopes out there now because they have to be good or no one will buy even one. A co-worker of mine has 3 Nikon Prostaff's and they are as clear as the Leupold's I own and were a good bit cheaper, I am just partial to the Leupold vari-x 2 and 3's with 50mm lens. I used to pick them up at gun shows a lot cheaper than new ones, but here recently, they are selling very well and you can't find any for sale much anymore at a bargain. You did very well with your buy, saw 2 a few weeks ago and they were asking 300 for them.
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Fred I know what your saying.....I was told the scope was a vari x 2 got my hands on it and it was a vx 2........Fred I have two vari x 3 4.5x14x50's and i know this dont sound right but i swear the vari x and vx 2 3x9x50's draw light better........ maybe its just me
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:38 PM
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Fred I know what your saying.....I was told the scope was a vari x 2 got my hands on it and it was a vx 2........Fred I have two vari x 3 4.5x14x50's and i know this dont sound right but i swear the vari x and vx 2 3x9x50's draw light better........ maybe its just me
As for the model 70 I agree with you but I like them all........I've got Rems but Im also a big Ruger Mk2 target series fan( I love the take up target trigger on that model)
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:21 AM
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Bear, I have been shooting 140 CT's, and BT's in my first sendero since day one, back in 97.I have made some shots with that rifle that I don't even believe, and there was a little wind, but not enough that you would not shoot. I have never understood it myself, but those Noslers buck the wind pretty well, even though they are only 140 grain. Don't be afraid to shoot them, but a deer at long distance had better be! I have one that shoots, 140's, another that shoots 150's, and my Sako has a affinity for 160's. I am building another, that I don't know what it is going to shoot. Another thing about the 140's, they are easier on the shoulder!!!!!

AIM SMALL, MISS SMALL... 7 STW.
Thanks for the response, I had some 140gn Noslers ABs going out at 3240 fps in my old 7mm rem mag which killed well but didn't handle the wind very well even at 400yds. In my experience accuracy is #1 but it must be backed by a good B.C. to buck the wind down range which in return will deliver higher energy to the animal. 160gn - 180gn bullets are the better bet in 7mm STW in my mind.

Can't believe the reponses to 7mm STW Brotherhood, it appears that the 7mm STW is alive and well and will be for quite some time.
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