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7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

 
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:18 AM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

how do those a-max hold up to a hog? thought those were more of a target round then a hunting round
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:37 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

Range Report:

I went this morning to shoot my last shots at a target and zero my scope in before I shoot at fur this coming Monday.

I have decided to hunt with the Sendero I obtained from Montana and I am going to use this load:
140 AB, 85.5 H1000, 215 Fed and 3.675 COL.

The velocity I am getting with this load is averaging 3,426 with an ES, ED of 12, 5.65 respectfully.

I am quite pleased with the tight groupings but I am bewildered at what I shot this morning.

As I said I zero the scope with a 3 shot grouping at 100 yards (it was not my best grouping but still well under MOA).

Then I went ahead and shot 2 shots at 200 yards (without adjusting the turrets) to see how much this load was dropping at 200 yards.

Below is the picture of the 2 shot group results at 200 yards. Not as good as 7STWs groupings at 200 yards but still right at .5 MOA. As you can see the bullets were hitting at 1 inch high. I am perplexed if I have the scope zeroed at 100 yards why it would shoot at 1 inch high at 200 yards.

Can anyone enlightened me on this?

Thanks!
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:18 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

Is your scope relatively high off the bore?
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:52 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

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Is your scope relatively high off the bore?
The crosshairs are approximately 1.75 inches above the bore. The bottom of the objective bell is almost touching the barrel. I am using an EGW 20 MOA rail with low Burris 30mm Xtreme Tactical Picatinny-Style Rings with an EGW 1-Piece Picatinny-Style rail (20 MOA) for my PST 6-24x50 FFP EBR-1 MOA Reticle scope.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:03 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

At your velocity the bullet is probably still rising beyond 200 yards. With my load I shoot, I site it 2" high at 100 yards. I didn't know till years later when the calculators started coming out that with that same sight in, at 200 yards I am 5.5" high and dead zero was 350 yards! I always shot 100 and 300 yard shots and never messed with 200 yards. Now I know why I shot high and missed a couple of deer that were right around 200 yards.

I am shooting a 127gr. Groove bullet at 3850 fps.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:45 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

Gamehawker, I have that same issue with a load I shot a few weeks ago. It makes me a little nervous, because it could cause a " mid range miss", or at least a high shot in the mid range. 200-350 area. I think I am going to deduct I MOA from my zero when I sight in my rifle next week in Maryland.
That load you are shooting is rockin. The SD, ES are amazing, and that group says it all.
I once had a rifle sighted a little too high at 100, and did not have a chance to shoot it on paper at longer distance. Well, long story short, I had a huge doe at exactly 200 yards, that I thought was at about 250. So, I held a little over center line, and watched the bullet hit the dirt behind her and high, directly over where I was aiming. Lesson learned. I use a 250 zero, which is about 1 1/4 inches high at 100. It still prints high at 200, but drops in at 250. ( at least on paper)

I think your load is a keeper, and anything in front of it is going for a pick- up ride. Good luck on your hunt, and have a Great Thanksgiving!

P/ S, are you hunting in Maryland?

Bob.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:13 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

Bob,

I'm hunting in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia (Old Fields, WV). My parents have a farm there and a little over 100 acres is hardwoods forest.

Good luck on hunting on the eastern shore of Maryland. I hope you have a Great Thanksgiving too!
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