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7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

 
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:25 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

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I have been monitoring and contributing to this post for quite some time. I see way too much concern, IMHO, about velocity. What we really need is accuracy. I used to shoot a lot of 1000 & 600 yard bench rest. I used a 6.5/284 Norma shooting a 142 gr. Sierra Match King @ 2850 fps. This load was supersonic well past 1000 yards. Accuracy was always sub. 1 MOA, usually much better if I was having a good day.

Anyway loading until you are blowing primer pockets, just does not compute to me ? The 7 STW has proven to be an extremely accurate cartridge for me. My goal is to get the most accurate load with a hunting bullet, shooting as few rounds as possible. A good barrel only has so many shots in it. I want to use this cartridge shooting big game. I have a lot of rifles that are way easier on barrels than my 7 STW.
Kreiger barrels are getting pretty hard to come by. 3100 fps with a 160 gr. Accubond is enough to make
real happy, especially when it is shooting 1/4 MOA at 400 yards.
I agree 100 percent .....I find the most accuracy then i get the numbers ad do my tables from there whateve4r the number is
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:20 AM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

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160 gr. Nosler Accubond
Nosler 7mm STW brass
Fed 215M
75.0 grs IMR 7828
OAL 3.650"
Thanks for the load data.
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Old 10-20-2012, 01:29 AM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

I think I'm going tomorrow morning. I'm still new to this, I've just been using my chrono for velocity numbers if too high and I look for if my bolt is hard to raise. Also I look at the primers to see if they are flatten.

What other kind of pressure signs should I look for?

Is there any type of gauge available to read the pressure?

Thanks!
pressure trace wasn't bad years ago when my brother in law and I were using it. A side benny is you can do your measurements and hide the guage under the stock area on a sendero type rifle, with just the connector sticking out for the world to see. I think he paid a couple of franklins for the set-up and $25 or so a guage, but it's been years since I've played with the stuff.

As to rl powder, I use both 22 and 25 and really don't notice huge changes with either, with 50-80 fps from 0 to 100 being the norm. H isn't a heck of a lot better, but I really don't swing that way very much(the H way), so I have limited H data.
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Old 10-20-2012, 01:37 AM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

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I have been monitoring and contributing to this post for quite some time. I see way too much concern, IMHO, about velocity. What we really need is accuracy. I used to shoot a lot of 1000 & 600 yard bench rest. I used a 6.5/284 Norma shooting a 142 gr. Sierra Match King @ 2850 fps. This load was supersonic well past 1000 yards. Accuracy was always sub. 1 MOA, usually much better if I was having a good day.

Anyway loading until you are blowing primer pockets, just does not compute to me ? The 7 STW has proven to be an extremely accurate cartridge for me. My goal is to get the most accurate load with a hunting bullet, shooting as few rounds as possible. A good barrel only has so many shots in it. I want to use this cartridge shooting big game. I have a lot of rifles that are way easier on barrels than my 7 STW.
Kreiger barrels are getting pretty hard to come by. 3100 fps with a 160 gr. Accubond is enough to make
real happy, especially when it is shooting 1/4 MOA at 400 yards.
+1

The 7stw really doesn't have to be run that dang hard to do well. I've seen rather light loads out of my dad's rifle do 600-700 yard kills off-hand off of one knee. My big 7's are usually close to the top, but not red-line. You are simply throwing $ away on bore life, brass cost, etc. for a few fps. There are a few people quoting 600 round barrel life from 7 stw's on the site; what the heck are they doing to their rifle to get that short of useful life from their rifle??
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:09 AM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

Anybody tried the bullets from swampworks in the 7mm stw?
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Old 10-20-2012, 04:39 PM
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Well, I got the lh 7stw out today and tried to make it puke. I couldn't get it to toss over a 1.5" 100 yard group, even hot as he!!. I think we have a winner with a simple pillar bed job. I've still got to get the rifle to 200 yards on another day to prove it. The rifle seemed to "ring" a bit differently with the pillars in, so I may have to play with the loads to realize group size gains with it.
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

LOAD INFO RETRACTION________RANGE REPORT TOO!!!!

Hey guys, I wanted to retract some info on the load I shot last Sunday. I stated I was shooting 81.8-RL25-150 BT. Well, as it turns out, that was my 140 formula, but the data for the 150 BT, was 81.0-rl25 , and a 215 GM fed. I would think that 81.8 behind a 150 would be a little stout.
I returned to the range today, although, weather conditions were a little warmer than I liked. The Sharpshooter really likes 79.3 -RL22-140 TSX @ 3.688. I think I'm boing to leave that load alone, and make it the standard load for that gun.
Additionally, I shot the 150 BT's again, with RL 25, and also, 78.5 grains of 7828ssc. I did not chrono anything, as I only had a short window of time this morning, but the accuracy at 200 yards with the 7828ssc load was better. ( about .780 ).
Well, I also tried some 140 TTSX bullets in the custom rifle, ahead of 82.2 grains of RL 25. This was just a trial load. I fired two at 100, which were practically in the same hole. Then I fired the remaining three at 200. The first two, were married, and the third on fell inside a inch @ 200 yards. No pressure signs from ANY of these loads. Has anybody taken game with the TTSX bullets? Anyway, just a little info, and update.
Take care to all.
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