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7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

 
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:12 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

As a foot note on the ammo, my guess is that because they had especial run on the SPS rifles in spring, they must have had a special run on the ammo as well.
( maybe all this is due to the fact that the 7RUM is dead)
Maybe they will continue making it, and MAYBE brass will become avail again too!!

EDIT, I just looked on Remingtons website, and they are listing the Core Lokt,( 140 grain, ) and that Swift A- Frame bullet, also in 140 grain.
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

Bob,

You have me intrigued about the RL25 powder. I've got a pound of it for my .257 wby but I have not used any yet. So I loaded up some 160 AB with RL25 80gr & 81gr and Fed 215.

I'm going to try them at the rifle range soon and will post the results.
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Good stuff on loads guys, my STW will be back in a week or so and I'm going to do some loading.
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Bob,

You have me intrigued about the RL25 powder. I've got a pound of it for my .257 wby but I have not used any yet. So I loaded up some 160 AB with RL25 80gr & 81gr and Fed 215.

I'm going to try them at the rifle range soon and will post the results.
I've been telling people to go to rl25 here for a while.
I'd work up to 81 slow with the 160 AB; I only use 82 grains with the 140 and it's full pressure. Nos. quotes 81 as top charge for the 140 in their book.
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

7stw - you mentioned that RL25 is more temp stable than RL22. Temp sensitivity is the reason I've stayed away from the RL powders (RL15 is the one exception I know of). I have read that RL17 is pretty temp stable also. What experience or data do you have with RL25 regarding temp? I'd really like to use it.
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7stw - you mentioned that RL25 is more temp stable than RL22. Temp sensitivity is the reason I've stayed away from the RL powders (RL15 is the one exception I know of). I have read that RL17 is pretty temp stable also. What experience or data do you have with RL25 regarding temp? I'd really like to use it.
Bobs the 25 is a bunch more stable than 22 ......still not an Extreme powder but way better than 22...... Im using 25 in my 22-243 MiddleStead (which is unreal) and plan on using it in my new STW build .........I really like it
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7stw - you mentioned that RL25 is more temp stable than RL22. Temp sensitivity is the reason I've stayed away from the RL powders (RL15 is the one exception I know of). I have read that RL17 is pretty temp stable also. What experience or data do you have with RL25 regarding temp? I'd really like to use it.
bobs, as we all know, and almost anybody who has loaded RL22, everyone will tell you that it varies substantially when the temps fluctuates. I have been a fan of it, and I understand when I can, and when I can't use it. That all being said, I tried some RL25 in the spring, and have shot it a few times, at varying temps, and have noted that I didn't get pressure when I expected to get it, and POI didn't change much either. It is by no means a " extreme " type of powder, nor is it advertised to be. I just noted that I didn't get the sensitivity that I have encountered with the 22. So, at least at this point, it does seem to a little better anyway.
Now, onto the 17' I really like that stuff. I shoot it in my .25-06, and it loves it. It IS advertised as being a less temp sensitive then it's other RL series brethren. Velocity is said to be higher, with less pressure. I have not chronoed any loads of recent, but I will be doing some soon.
It seems to me, that when the temps are between 30-65, I can safely and predictably use RL22' and get good speed, and accuracy, and no pressure spikes or dips. The RL 25, seems to exhibit more energy, and lower ES. That's just my take on things so far.
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