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7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

 
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:29 AM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

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Thanks for posting that. I do like a 1-2" exit hole. I guess the risk with that may be that some tracking will have to be done? The deer I shot last year had a 2" or so exit wound and dropped close to it. I wonder if a lighter bullet might be better or worse? Any ideas on that?
It depends. Some deer will drop right there with a bullet that stays together and punches a 1" exit. With others, you can totally frag their insides and they keep going. I once shot a doe through the very bottom of the heart with a 139 Hornady (out of a 7 mag) and it left a softball sized exit and she ran 30 yards painting a 3 foot wide swath of blood.

A lot of it depends on the animal, shot placement and how much critical tissue is destroyed. It is, however, my experience that the bullets that fragment...or at least expand violently.... in the boiler room tend to drop deer a lot faster than bullets that punch through. Your mileage may vary.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:39 AM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

I'm shooting Elk and Antelope with 180 gr Bergers in just over a week. I have no idea what they'll do. I'm aiming behind the shoulder rather than high shoulder/bone, I know that.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:02 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

A lot of people seem to be taking Elk with them. I'll bet the trick is the speed it slows too. Sounds like up close, don't hit bone and under some number 3000fps? probably much lower they hold together just fine. Ask BROZ on here what speed, he seems to use them religiously.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:04 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

Lefty, get your paintball gun out!
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:03 PM
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about it. Recover the deer, it was like you took a shovel, and just scooped out a baseball size chunk of shoulder. The animal dragged the remainder of the leg about 200 yards before it finally expired. I'm sorry, no more ham- Berger for me.

Wow. That happened to you twice with the Bergers? The penetration did not get past the shoulder bone?

I have heard the Bergers lauded on this forum (maybe not this thread), I have also heard that at "super" speed some versions developed nose slump. Do you think this caused the problem? Did they group well at those speeds?
Have you had that happen with any other bullet at those speeds?

I am not arguing, i am just curious. I have a few boxes to load up.[/QUOTE]

Big Jake, yeah, that did happen to me twice. When it happened to me in July, I thought, huh' maybe a bad batch. That was in seven millimeter. In November, earlier the same day that I lost the doe, I made a perfect high spine shot. DRT. Spine was severed. Again, this was in 30 caliber.
As far as the groups, they were fantastic. My seven mag 700 p shoots 1/4 inch at 200 with 168 VLD. The 300 RUM was shooting sub minute groups consistently, speed was 3369. Accuracy wise, those are probably the most accurate bullets I have ever shot. It may never happen again, and I have friends that swear by them. Again , these are my experiences, I have shared similar ones with others. I have just opted to go another way. ( velocity on the seven mag was 2977).
As far as similar experiences with other bullets, the short answer is no. Prior to shooting the Bergers, I was shooting 165 Failsafes, and 165 Accubonds. My rifle preferred the Failsafes, but my supply ran out, and they no longer make them. I have shot partitions, CT, BT in some other STW's with no problems. The most successful, and nearly a go to bullet is the 140 CT. To my knowledge, nothing has gotten away, and usually DRT. Time will tell if I made the right decision.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:49 PM
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

I posted a pic earlier and it had the wrong data :-( Sorry about that. the shot group actually should have been .519, lol.

I went to the range and shot my 270 and it was .889 and i realized the other group was inaccurate.

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Old 09-27-2012, 04:58 PM
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Nice group.
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