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7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

 
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Old 08-05-2012, 09:58 PM
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Guys, I just got offered a Honda Rancher 2010 4 wheeler with low miles, essentially very new and cared for, $4,000., is this a good price? Should I counter or take it. It's hard to find something used when you don't know much about it. I did ride it and it's powerful feeling.
What size engine does it have??? Honda's are great atv's very dependable I have driven one years ago alot, it belonged to SCDNR and was issued to my now ex-wife...Price don't sound to bad if it is a bigger size say 400 plus, but always counter,,,,never know may offered $2500 and get it better than $4000, all they do is say NO...
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Old 08-05-2012, 10:07 PM
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Sackett, you just gave that OLE 12 Pointer a Heart attack. @ 500 yards . What more could you ask for. GREAT shooting, and I know it must feel good to get some " T" time , and to get to shoot that well. Once you get your optics figured out, so that you can predict where to aim, and hold, nothing will be safe that you can see.
Yeah, BUT that paper 12 pointer just stands there, if I get Ole Big Boy to stay still like that paper I'll be good to GO!!! LOL
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So many factors at 500 yards, great shot. Totally awesome. Long range shooting takes real practice and skill. Pulling the trigger, locked in, is an Art. Nice shooting.

yes it does, working on my .257 Rbts some now, shooting real good up 400yds....I'm now gonna start using the Fred Bear method of practice now with the 7STW....Gonna go out everyday and shoot 1 shot at the deer target at 500 yds, go get the target and come on home...I think that will really build confidence for the up coming deer season, my area of SC starts gun season Oct 11, but the low country opens Aug 15, and I do hunt there sometimes so maybe in a few days I'll get test out the STW for real!!!!
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I am doubtful I will stick with the 4350 load, it was the result of the faulty readings on the chrony that I started experimenting with loads a bit "out of the box". I have some retumbo and H1000 stuff loaded up now, hopefully I will get a chance to try them out on Monday. I have RL 22 and 25, but I am trying to stick to the Hodgdon Extreme powders for their temperature stability. I intend to use this rifle moose hunting, and there can be huge temp variances in moose season here in Ontario. It can go from below freezing to 30C (90F) overnight.
This is a hunting gun, but as with all my rifles, I like to build/find a load that shoots ragged hole groups. It gives you great confidence in your hunting rigs, when you know they shoot like match rifles.

Well I just got back from the range, and I'm at a loss again. Tried 3 loads of H1000, of 80, 80.5 and 81gr, and 3 loads of Retumbo of 78, 78.5 and 79gr. These are all loaded the same, Nosler Brass, 168 gr Berger VLD seated to 3.695" OAL (Maximum the magazine will hold) using CCI 250 primers.
I cannot get good velocities out of it. They were all in the 2900-3000 fps range. There is no real pressure signs yet, primers aren't even starting to flatten. I don't know if I should just keep loading hotter until I start showing pressure? Even if I keep going I don't think I will get up to 3200+ speeds. Seems like a grain of powder gains approx 50fps, so I don't think 4 grains more is possible.

I can get 3300fps using H4350 and 168gr VLD's, but I know this may not be my best option. Am I looking for too much by wanting to see 3200+fps out of H1000 or Retumbo?

I'm using a Sako 75 Stainless, 26" barrel with a muzzle brake.
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Well I just got back from the range, and I'm at a loss again. Tried 3 loads of H1000, of 80, 80.5 and 81gr, and 3 loads of Retumbo of 78, 78.5 and 79gr. These are all loaded the same, Nosler Brass, 168 gr Berger VLD seated to 3.695" OAL (Maximum the magazine will hold) using CCI 250 primers.
I cannot get good velocities out of it. They were all in the 2900-3000 fps range. There is no real pressure signs yet, primers aren't even starting to flatten. I don't know if I should just keep loading hotter until I start showing pressure? Even if I keep going I don't think I will get up to 3200+ speeds. Seems like a grain of powder gains approx 50fps, so I don't think 4 grains more is possible.

I can get 3300fps using H4350 and 168gr VLD's, but I know this may not be my best option. Am I looking for too much by wanting to see 3200+fps out of H1000 or Retumbo?

I'm using a Sako 75 Stainless, 26" barrel with a muzzle brake.
If you are at 3100 fps or so on a 168, that's about it. 160's may get you to 3200 fps, and a 175 will drop to 3K or so. A fast barrel may add a few fps, but much more than those numbers is higher than normal pressure.
I'll be trying retumbo this week in my 7stw with the 171 barnes matchburner and let you know what happened there. I have a m700lh 7mm stw with a 24" custom barrel. I'm loading 74, 76, and 78 on the 171. I have it doing 2950 with .3 moa with rl25 with a top speed of 3100 fps(no accuracy there though), but it doesn't like hot weather a bit. I'm trying retumbo to see if that clears up somewhat.
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Re: 7mm STW Brotherhood - For those who shoot the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner

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Well I just got back from the range, and I'm at a loss again. Tried 3 loads of H1000, of 80, 80.5 and 81gr, and 3 loads of Retumbo of 78, 78.5 and 79gr. These are all loaded the same, Nosler Brass, 168 gr Berger VLD seated to 3.695" OAL (Maximum the magazine will hold) using CCI 250 primers.
I cannot get good velocities out of it. They were all in the 2900-3000 fps range. There is no real pressure signs yet, primers aren't even starting to flatten. I don't know if I should just keep loading hotter until I start showing pressure? Even if I keep going I don't think I will get up to 3200+ speeds. Seems like a grain of powder gains approx 50fps, so I don't think 4 grains more is possible.

I can get 3300fps using H4350 and 168gr VLD's, but I know this may not be my best option. Am I looking for too much by wanting to see 3200+fps out of H1000 or Retumbo?

I'm using a Sako 75 Stainless, 26" barrel with a muzzle brake.
Did any of those loads group?
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Did any of those loads group?
dang-- thought I'd asked that-- looked back after you posted and I simply rambled and forgot the number one question-- did it group well???
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