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Old 07-29-2003, 08:34 PM
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Re: Success At +1000 yards!

Mbianchini, those pics. of yours are some of the finest i've ever seen on these forums-- well done, and what a shooter you got!!
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Old 07-30-2003, 12:26 PM
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Re: Success At +1000 yards!

Hey Fiftydriver whaat type of 338 wildcat are you working on?
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Re: Success At +1000 yards!

SSCOYOTE,

Funny you should ask about the specialty handguns. I have my XP-100 in 338 WSM zeroed at 500 yards right now but have been busy developing the rifles.

Only problem I have had so far with the Specialty handguns is optics. The 3-12 Burris is about as large as high powered as they come but will only allow shooting out to around 500-600 yards on chuck size critters, hairs to thick and cover up to much target.

I will be building a 6.5 WSM on another XP here soon on a sporter weight barrel which will be much better suited for deer hunting here in central Montana.

Good Shooting!!!

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Old 07-30-2003, 03:57 PM
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CrowMag,

I think the Wild is the one I will be getting, looks like a quality set up. Thanks for the input reguarding your experience.

Good Shooting!!!

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Old 07-30-2003, 04:05 PM
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mbianchini,

Hell of a rifle you got there, great loads as well. It suprises me how similiar the 243 AI, 6mmAI and 6mm-284 are in performance.

Top loads out of my 6mm-284 produced 3595 fps. The most accurate load is the one I am using now with RL-22 at 3430 fps.

The big 6mm's are great with the long VLD bullets.

Good Luck in your hunt for 1000 yards, sound like the weather is your only hold up!

Good Shooting!!!

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Old 07-30-2003, 04:23 PM
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Texas,

When I looked at designing a 338 wildcat, I had several cases in mind to play with including the Lapua, Rigby, Lazz, RUM and the big weatherby case.

When it came right down to it, I want to design a round that the average money maker can afford to build a rifle for and shoot but still with plenty of performance for 1500 yard shooting.

The Lapua and its improved brother are greatlong range hammers but require fat actions and brass costs nearly $2 per.

The Rigby is in the same size class only longer and about as expensive. Some brass I have loaded for customers was not what I would call match quality by any means either.

Lazzeroni brass is big, expensive and from what I have seen with a few different rounds I have tested, not very good quality.

The WBY case is big, expensive and pretty soft, limiting the number of firings on a case.

This left me with the RUM case. The 300 RUM itself has a case capacity that is one grain larger then the standard 338 Lapua, at least the brass I measured. I'm sure some is larger, some is smaller but basically the same.

My round will be designed strickly for use in extreme range situations out of single shot rifles.

I am using, actually the 375 RUM case. The necks will be turned and then sized to .338". THe shoulder will be moved forward so that it is the same length as the 7mm RUM, roughly .250" long. I know those traditionalists will not like this but in a single shot rifle it will be plenty. After moving the shoulder forward, it will be sharpened up to either 40 or 45 degrees, have not fully decided yet and the body will have .015" taken out of the taper.

Basically it will be an improved 338-300 RUM with the shoulder moved forward just shy of .010".

Case capacity should be close to the improved Lapua with brass that is 1/4 the price.

Also this round will fit in conventional actions like the Rem M700, Win M70 or even the Sav if someone would want to.

My first one will be built on a blue-printed Rem 700 with a holland .250" thick recoil lug and a 36" Lilja straight cylinder barrel.

I will use a barrel mounting V-block and free float the remaining barrel and action to the stock.

I am hoping to get performance in teh 3050-3100 fps range out of this set up with the 300 gr MK.

THe optics will be a Nightforce 8-32 NXS and a Jewel trigger will also be added. The stock is still undecided but I have it narrowed down to three makers, all in the heavy tactical style.

I will either use a Holland "Quick Discharge" break or one of my own designs of similiar style.

Good Shooting!!!

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