Originally Posted by Fiftydriver
I have just never been dramatically impressed with the CE bullets. Nothing really wrong with them but the ones I have tested in 7mm, 30 cal and 338 really left me wondering one major question after I developed loads for them, what am I really gaining here????
The reason I ask that is three fold.
1. Mainly cost. I can get conventional cup jacketed lead core bullets that are more consistant over a wider range of bore diameters and more forgiving in seating depth and load and do so with prices that are 1/3 to 1/2 less then the CE bullets.
2. They can be a real pain in the rear to find that sweet spot in seating depth, in fact a few rifles I have never found it and gave up.
3. Terminal performance. There is no doubt that at closer ranges they do extremely well but at long range, like the TSX, TTSX and LRX bullets from Barnes, they thrive on speed but as range increases, terminal performance can really drop off as with all solid copper or alloy designs, even HP designs.
Now in the 375, they may have some merit simply because of the lack of options out there but for all other calibers, I see them as an option but just can not justify the extreme cost over more conventional bullets which will offer at least as high of a BC, be more forgiving from bore to bore and generally better terminally over a wider range of distances. Just my throughts.
Again, have no problem with these bullets, just do not really see the justification to charge what they do for what you get in most calibers.
I have never used the smaller calibre CE projectiles, like you I can't really see the point, the conventional projectiles do an alround fantastic job, there is basically one to suit nearly every possible situation.
The bigger calibres 375 & 416 for instance the jacketed projectiles are limited.
The ones I have tried were left wanting in either speed, BC, accuracy, terminal performance or a combination of all four.
The speed, BC & accuracy achieved by the mono projectiles in the bigger calibres, at this stage, is basically impossible for a conventional projectile to equal or better.
Terminal performance of the monos is getting better with the introduction of the tipped Lazer projectiles & alike.
I have had little to no problem with seating depths with the CE, GSC, Lehigh & Predator projectiles I have used.
The 414 depth I used was the first one I tried & it shot lights out straight away.
My own experience has shown the tipped projectile lose a little BC over their untipped siblings, this is with my custom tipped ones, terminal performance goes through the roof & accuracy isn't degraded.
Basically without the mono projectiles the bigger calibres have very little if anything to offer over a big 338, some would say they still don't.
I will happily pay a premium for a projectile that allows me to shoot moa or better well beyond a mile
Sorry for wandering off track a little Broz