Originally Posted by jeff 300
I just got back from a cow elk hunt in New Mexico at the Mescalero Apache Reservation and the guy running the show and guides where so mad at guys going out trying in there words ( DAMMED LONG RANGE HUNTING STUFF) to shoot a cow elk at long range wounding it then not finding it then moving on to another one. They where cussing long range hunters so bad that i didn't even say a thing about my plans and waited till no one was around to check my rifles 0 so they would not see my rig. All it take is one DA to start problems for every body else. DON'T BE THAT PERSON!!!
People that talk n think like you and act like them and probably youthe way this sounds. is what give this long range stuff a BAD BAD NAME WE DON'T NEED . AND YES YOU CAN WOUND A WT DEER WITH A 338 AT ANY RANGE. it will die but finding it may be another story that give us a bad name.
Uhhhh if you hit a whitey in the body with a 300 smk and you can't recover it you should work on tracking skills a lot more than shooting skills or internet flaming skills. Sounds like you maybe havent seen hundreds die from those rounds. I know its not popular to downgrade shot placement etc but a 338 at 1k and less is just a nasty deal and I have seen hundreds of stuff killed that could have lived with a 300. Is it possible to lose one? Sure. Also possible at 10 yds.
Also reading comprehension might help.
I stated that with a spotter a 1000 yd kill is easy for the SHOOTER and not the person who built the system to do it with.
I can take any one who can pull a trigger and put them on a railgun with my data calls and whack deer at 1000 yds. Teaching someone to do it themselves in my opinion is impossible anyway. LRH done right is a team sport.
I would never have stated what I stated anywhere else but here where I expect members to be aware of what is possible with a good spotter and system.
And yes I am terrified of the weekend warriors with FACTORY AMMO and drop charts taped to a sendero who are griping about the cost of 3 whole boxes of some premium ammo.
Both of my posts were meant to convey the fact that a person with a qualified spotter and VERY specialized system can kill stuff reliably at 1k.
As long as the spotter knows his stuff and the weapon/data/equipment are on then killing at 1k is nothing for the shooter. Shooting is easy. Calling a shot and developing the system and equipment to do it is not.