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Unread 06-16-2012, 10:04 PM
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Re: Longest shot +1500 yard hunting?

I recall reading about some of Darryl's shooting in the early 2000's before he left this site. I don't recall this particular story (the yardage, at least) but I doubt very much he and friends were using an EDGE.

His [albeit, old] email/number is listed here:

Longrangehunting "Bigeyes"

A search using his name reveals a number of posts from the early 2000's before he left.

Perhaps someone can track him down and get his story. I know they would use sighter shots and adjust accordingly before going for a kill shot, of course.

As I recall he spent alot of time shooting 1000yd contests about the time of this post of his above. If I recall correctly he lived close to or shot alot at the 1000yd range that I believe is still used for championship 1000yd shooting in the US...not sure I described that correctly. I want to say is was the Williamsport Club. Seems like he was a Bruce Baer fan, if I recall.

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Unread 06-16-2012, 10:51 PM
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Re: Longest shot +1500 yard hunting?

I watched on the military CH. where they tried to duplicate a mile sniper shot, with a top name rifle.They pounded alot of ammo down range and never came close. This was a year or 2 ago.The more you shoot at ELR the more you see the variables. Most rifle bullet combos are starting to suffer at 1500+ .This apppears to be the next chapter with the +PS and AM'S.I hpoe to do this myself.
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Unread 06-17-2012, 06:17 AM
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Re: Longest shot +1500 yard hunting?

Here is the link
338 - 500 Jeffrey

Darryl s friend built a rifle like his and shot the elk.

It was a 338 416 Rigby improved with 36" barrel and 300smk and 2890 yds with mark 4 scope
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Unread 06-17-2012, 07:47 AM
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Re: Longest shot +1500 yard hunting?

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I am saying it can't be done reliably. I am also saying you are just as likely to hit the Elk in the gut as in the lungs. I am also saying if you hit the Elk at 2980 yds with an Edge the effect would be similar to hitting him at 25 yds with a 115 gr 9mm pb.

1mph miscalculation of the wind will cause about .5 mil of drift. That's roughly 50 inches. Time of flight is around six seconds, if an Elk stars to walk just as you break the shot he will be 30 ft away from his location when the bullet left the barrel. If you are shooting a .5 min rifle just this dispersion could cause the bullet to strike 7.5 inches from the POA. 10 fps deviation in MV would cause 50 or so inches in deviation your vertical come-up.

You folks ponder on this then tell me what the probability of making a clean kill on an Elk at 2980 yds would be.

Anyway, I love to hunt, I also love shooting Longrange, I also believe there are folks that lurk around these sites looking for reasons to attack our right to hunt. I believe if we as hunters show a tendency to police ourselves, there will be a lower probability of cheap shots and regulation directed at us.

I'll shut up about this now unless attacked, let the discussion continue, hopefully with these points in mind.
I dont really like the fact that I have talked to several bow hunters and the story all ways goes I shot this doe and she ran off found a little blood but then I lost the trail . We never found her! More stories like this have I herd with a bow than with a rifle but does that mean I have the right to say you shouldnt hunt with a bow ? No it doesnt ! We all have our opinions ......

Thanks for the post LR3 I hope to get past the 1500 mark some day but at this present time 1000 will make me happy
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Unread 06-17-2012, 10:59 AM
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Re: Longest shot +1500 yard hunting?

i happen to know darryl cassel pretty well. ive known him for at least 25 years. he lives about 1 mile from our nc pa camp.
that said ill be forthright in saying we have our personal differences.
he is an experienced long range hunter and shooter.
the elk in question here was not taken by him or his group nor was he present when it was taken.
he claims elk kills of over 2000 yds however. his gun is a 338x416 imp. built by bruce baer.
i have no reason to doubt his claims as he has the experience and
equiptment to pull it off.
the elk in question here as i recall was something like 2840 yds.
the group involved were also very experienced. they were from pa although i believe one might be from ohio.
i dont know any of them personaly other than to have been around them at
a few rifle matches.
however a very good friend had some dealings with several of them at his home shortly after the elk kill.
he was told they were somewhat embarresed by the incident and had no desire to attempt a repeat of it.
they did not kill the elk cleanly. rather they crippled it to where it couldnt
get away.
he claims being told it was late in the day and they went the following morning to finish it. others claim they were told they finished it the same day.
the rifle would have been either a 338x378 or a 338x416.

as a long range hunter of 40+ years im inclined to agree with augustis.
this is no place to be discussing these type things.
the chances of failure are far greater than success even by the best of us at those extreme distances.
i only know one individual who even claims to have killed a pa deer at a mile.
and that person just happens to be darryl cassel.
there are some very good shooters with some very large rifles wandering around there.

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Unread 06-17-2012, 12:37 PM
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Re: Longest shot +1500 yard hunting?

Just play with a ballistics calculator for a little bit and see the physics that come into play. They are amazingly huge. This does not account for human and rifle error. Hitting the broad side of a barn with consistency would be tough. Could it be done, yes. I could jump out of a two story window and not get hurt too.

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